Steve Pockross

We are fully bootstrapped.

We have no capital, much less additional capital at our hands.

And so I think that comes with pros and cons.

In this crisis, it is a particularly good time to be a bootstrap company because we had to learn to live lean for a really long time.

And so the one access to capital that I'm looking at and I'm waiting for a call right now is from the Payment Protection Loan Program.

which the government made available.

We're all trying to figure out how that can give us an extra level of assuredness to keep the staff that we have for as long as humanly possible.

So first of all, I learned.

Thank you so much for sending out proactively guidance to your audience on how to do it.

I learned more from you than I did from the government on how to do this.

I am in this very interesting point where I am currently looking at my phone.

and waiting for my banker to call me to do the application over the phone because she personally has 800 applications she's trying to submit on her laptop today and didn't know as of yesterday what the process would be.

Where with BOK Financial, they've done a great job of just immediately following up in a way that I think is going to create a hell of a week for those guys.

It's going to be crazy.

And I do like their approach of doing more sooner and knowing that they're going to accept mistakes that they're going to make versus the opposite of making sure they got it perfect.

I do have a funny.

Do you have time for a tangent?

In 1999, I was living in Brazil and I had to apply for a cell phone.

And at the time, Brazilians like state run phone company was a total disaster.

And so they would give you a giant phone.