Steve Rinella

Like it's just, it's a giant piece of it.

So it's very hard to do is what I'm trying to say.

You know what he was trying to say by saying that is that it's just such a giant piece of water and you're trying to manage it.

And yes, in some ways it's like an experiment, but I think that it's like, you can't really control the experiment.

Yeah, it's interesting because I think it was like a penny per dollar spent on those carp.

One penny is spent on trying to deal with the muscles.

So it's just like, for whatever reason, it's not top of mind.

Because I don't know how, like,

Well, a couple of the other things that they're, that they're testing and researching now, as far as getting rid of these muscles is, um,

One is a, they're literally, they have a, like they're developing these scraping machines that will literally go in and scrape these reefs clean to create, so that they hopefully can have habitat where these whitefish can do their spawning.

Scrape and crush.

The other thing that's getting thrown out there and messed with and they're researching if it works is suffocating.

They're like going down in there with tarps and covering, you know, large areas with tarps and

because they produce carbon dioxide.

And so if they can't get that fresh water in there, it literally, it suffocates them.

I guess.

I haven't had that.

I know that's a thing that you get, but I haven't had that.

Yeah.

So I talked to some fish use biologists.