Steve Saretsky

This is where they typically eat out.

Those patterns recur and you can begin to have and you have all that information stored.

That's got a lot of people freaked out.

The other element that's got a lot of people concerned has to do with the assistance or support that these companies would have to provide to law enforcement.

And there is a lot of concern that this could lead to requirements to break encryption or to create back doors for law enforcement to be able to access this.

You've got the giants who have all spoken up, the Apples and Metas and Googles saying, we don't do this anywhere and we sure don't want to do it here either.

Yeah.

So I'm not sure that I've got a great answer to some of the concerns that you just expressed about the criminal justice system.

I would agree that there is a lot of frustration with somehow this plays out at the moment.

I think in some ways that's a little bit disconnected from what the government has in mind here, though.

This is why.

And we could just take a look at what law enforcement's been saying.

They were up before committee just the week that we're recording this.

And, you know, they essentially say, listen, there's a lot of crime out there.

We need these kinds of tools.

Part of the problem is that a lot of what they're suggesting is more of a resource issue than it is a legal issue, right?

So part of the problem is they say, listen, it takes a long time for us to do this or that or to get the information.

But that's not a legal barrier.

That's just because there aren't enough resources in the system to help assist on some of those kinds of issues.

And the other problem that I see is that they have really failed to provide effective use cases or evidence about why this is both needed and proportionate.