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Steve Saretsky

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The Loonie Hour
Canada's State Surveillance Bill - w/ guest Michael Geist

Google said similar kinds of things, but their issue was always a little bit different, in part because they, of course, were proactively indexing the news to try to get the best possible search results.

The Loonie Hour
Canada's State Surveillance Bill - w/ guest Michael Geist

And so in the end, they negotiated a deal with the government where they

The Loonie Hour
Canada's State Surveillance Bill - w/ guest Michael Geist

are paying $100 million a year.

The Loonie Hour
Canada's State Surveillance Bill - w/ guest Michael Geist

That's a decent chunk of change.

The Loonie Hour
Canada's State Surveillance Bill - w/ guest Michael Geist

But if you subtract what's been lost from Meta, including the license deals they had, and you exclude the license deals that Google had before, it's not as much new money as one might have anticipated.

The Loonie Hour
Canada's State Surveillance Bill - w/ guest Michael Geist

So that's where we're at.

The Loonie Hour
Canada's State Surveillance Bill - w/ guest Michael Geist

Sort of a bit of a heads up about where we may be going.

The Loonie Hour
Canada's State Surveillance Bill - w/ guest Michael Geist

We modeled our law on an Australian law that tried to do much of the same thing.

The Loonie Hour
Canada's State Surveillance Bill - w/ guest Michael Geist

Meta has said that they will no longer pay for news links in Australia, much like the situation in Canada.

The Loonie Hour
Canada's State Surveillance Bill - w/ guest Michael Geist

And Australia has proposed responding with just a straightforward tax.

The Loonie Hour
Canada's State Surveillance Bill - w/ guest Michael Geist

They say, we're going to tax, I believe it's 2.25% or 2.5% of your revenues in the country and have that money transferred over to news.

The Loonie Hour
Canada's State Surveillance Bill - w/ guest Michael Geist

So if this goes ahead, they've given up even the pretense of saying this is about any sort of compensation.

The Loonie Hour
Canada's State Surveillance Bill - w/ guest Michael Geist

It's just a straightforward tax to cross-sectorize a news sector.

The Loonie Hour
Canada's State Surveillance Bill - w/ guest Michael Geist

To shake down.

The Loonie Hour
Canada's State Surveillance Bill - w/ guest Michael Geist

Exactly what it is.

The Loonie Hour
Canada's State Surveillance Bill - w/ guest Michael Geist

That's all it is.

The Loonie Hour
Canada's State Surveillance Bill - w/ guest Michael Geist

I mean, and they are now straightforward about saying it's not about links.

The Loonie Hour
Canada's State Surveillance Bill - w/ guest Michael Geist

It's now about the fact that much advertising has moved from those traditional media to the digital space.

The Loonie Hour
Canada's State Surveillance Bill - w/ guest Michael Geist

Well, in the Australian instance, I think it's probably as it's primarily they would, if pressed, they would acknowledge that Rupert Murdoch happens to be the press baron in Australia and Rupert Murdoch would like to get paid.

The Loonie Hour
Canada's State Surveillance Bill - w/ guest Michael Geist

And so that's a pretty powerful position to be in.