Steve Stromberg

Sasha, as a winter Olympian, how do you feel about this?

I have to admit that one of the biggest sources of tension in my marriage is whether the summer or the Winter Olympics are better.

And I'm a Winter Olympics stan, I gotta say.

You know what?

The bang for your buck, there are fewer...

That's true.

But all of them are kind of incredible.

Yeah.

It's just people throwing themselves in the air.

Everything is on a slick surface.

The skill and the daring that's required to, you know, think about the first time some of these ski jumpers went off.

you know, the normal hill, let alone the higher one.

I mean, it's just, how do you even, how do you even get to that point to me is just amazing.

Skeleton people, yeah.

We will continue the debate some other time.

But for now, Isa, Kelly, Sasha, thank you so much for joining us.

I'm Steve Stromberg, an editor for New York Times Opinion, and I'm joined today by the columnist Tom Friedman.

Hi, Tom.

Hey, Steve.

You're joining us early on Monday morning because of the violence in Minneapolis over the weekend.