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Steve Young, ASU Head Coach Kenny Dillingham, Are The Bengals Back? Jalen Hurts And AJ Brown Used To Be Friends, CFB Playoffs And Guys On Chicks

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I think if you stand back to who they were last year, fully loaded, and Christian McCaffrey and Brandon Ayoub probably, other than George, the most important people on the field, and then Trent and not – no, Trent. It's, you know, it's going to – it's hard, right? But I think it was going to get harder anyway.

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Steve Young, ASU Head Coach Kenny Dillingham, Are The Bengals Back? Jalen Hurts And AJ Brown Used To Be Friends, CFB Playoffs And Guys On Chicks

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So I think what's happened is they got punched in the mouth in Green Bay, got punched in the mouth in Buffalo, and got – and we got embarrassed. And this is a team, yeah, short of some guys. We get that. But as a group, 50 guys – have been at super bowls or at championship games.

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And all of a sudden people are, you know, treating them like dogs, like, like something's, you know, and, and I think that this is their answer back, like, Hey, we're wounded, but we're not gone. And so when you say, Hey, can they, can they clap back and get something done? I think this is a group of people that have proven some real resilience. I mean, this is some, some hardy folks.

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Steve Young, ASU Head Coach Kenny Dillingham, Are The Bengals Back? Jalen Hurts And AJ Brown Used To Be Friends, CFB Playoffs And Guys On Chicks

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That's why last week I talked about grit with, you know, during the week about them is like, where's the grit? Where's the natural grit that you guys have had for years? And I think they answered that on Sunday. So I would say to your question, can they clap back and make something happen? They're under duress. They got to win. They got to go to Miami and win.

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They got to win against the Rams who are hot. And they got to come back home and beat the Lions. They have to win those games. And so, yeah, it's absolutely possible. It's possible. Hard, but possible. Yes, fundamentally.

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Ray Perkins got the head coaching job and he looked at me like, bro, I hate lefties and I hate scramblers. Anyone who could run was like weird. You should stand there. Don't go anywhere. And I look, that was prototype. I get it. It's still, look, you got to be a sophisticated pastor of the football today.

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Steve Young, ASU Head Coach Kenny Dillingham, Are The Bengals Back? Jalen Hurts And AJ Brown Used To Be Friends, CFB Playoffs And Guys On Chicks

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matter what but i always thought it was a bonus and he thought it was terrible they ran i mean he thought i left in a scrambler you're out i hate you yeah lefties do look weird no but but but but getting thrown out like when you talk about bryce young look there's there's crappy places to be as a quarterback today you can go to teams and it just it just sucks being a quarterback there because they they have people running the organization i'm not speaking about carolina specifically i'm talking about

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There's a number of places where they still don't, from ownership on down, don't understand the position's importance and then how to, they tend to look at it from a defensive perspective. I'm not going to coddle a quarterback. I'm not going to, they don't need special treatment, you know? And so it's like the paradigm is wrong. It's not that they need to be coddled or need special treatment.

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There's expertise to the nature of Building a situation, an organization from the ground up to make the job for the quarterback as easy as possible so they can thrive and be great. And if you do that, then you have a chance. And so for Bryce, it's getting to a place where you can actually show who you are. Look at Sam Darnold's a perfect example. Jets flailing around. Boss goes to Carolina.

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Steve Young, ASU Head Coach Kenny Dillingham, Are The Bengals Back? Jalen Hurts And AJ Brown Used To Be Friends, CFB Playoffs And Guys On Chicks

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Oh, show some signs. Let's be honest. He set up some smoke signals in Carolina when he was there. Like, I can still do this. I don't suck. But you still need more help. And then he gets to San Francisco. And what does Kyle Shanahan say? I love this guy. This guy's career arc could be great. And we all kind of said, oh, yeah, what are you talking about? That's crazy. He's nuts. What does he do?

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And then he goes to Minnesota. And now, and so Bryce – Unless you – look, there's some guys that hit the pro game who have really thrived in college who look prototype. Bryce looks prototype. Probably not big as strong as the prototypes, but runs around, makes big plays, like, and been in the big games. Like –

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bryce doesn't know his ceiling we don't know his ceiling and there's filters he's got to go through even if he got all of that help but what you're seeing today in the last few weeks is hey look i i can survive here And if you can survive, then you can thrive.

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And so I don't know where this ends up for Bryce, but he's showing me, um, like, like Sam did when he was in Carolina, like we're losing, but I can figure this out. And, and that's a, I always say it's called sending me smoke signals.

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Like, like I'm, I'm dying down here, but I'm sending you, uh, something that tells me that you're going to, you, you, you have a chance to thrive at some point, even either there or somewhere else.

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1,000%. Max, 100%. I can't agree with you more. It's the signal in tough times and tough situations. That team, you know, it's hard in locker rooms. I was in Tampa. I understand losing locker rooms. The players are not losers, but the losing locker room is tough to overcome.

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And so if you can show signs, smoke signals again, that you know what you're doing and I can figure it out, that is warrior work. That is – Patrick Mahomes does not have to do that work anymore. Josh Allen does not have to do that work anymore. But in many ways, Bryce is doing that work.

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The problem is, is you don't have 32 great places for quarterbacks to make that judgment. You have to glean through, you have to recognize, like if you're in San Francisco and you're struggling, you got problems. It couldn't be a better place. Jimmy Garoppolo takes a team to the Super Bowl here and then can't find a job.

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Steve Young, ASU Head Coach Kenny Dillingham, Are The Bengals Back? Jalen Hurts And AJ Brown Used To Be Friends, CFB Playoffs And Guys On Chicks

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So like there's places where, you know, if you go down and see a Sean McVay and struggle at quarterback, the guy that understands and innovative mind and how he calls plays and the understands position, then that's about you. You know what I mean? So if they, if the Rams drafted or the 49ers drafted a young quarterback, like Trey Lansing can't do it.

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That's a, that's a sign of, that's not a, that's not a, that's not a situation problem. That's a you problem. Right. And so, uh, But then there's a lot of places where you go and you can't know that. They get drafted a young quarterback to try to be great, and it's not a great place for quarterbacks, and it's not necessarily a you problem.

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And I think that people who understand the position, who have built organizations to make sure that they make the quarterback as profitable as possible, have now the reps to know when somebody is – not going to get there or like Sam Darnold, like there's something here and we can, we can work with it.

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And so I, I just, I think until there's 32 teams like that, we're going to have to glean through where it is and what it is. Like if someone gets drafted by the jets this year and they haven't fixed anything, then it can't be harder. I mean, I feel for Aaron Rogers because it's so interesting that he's, he's, he was, he was, developed in an age of more sophistication.

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The job that he had 15 years ago is so much harder than it is today. Today's game, as Tom Brady describes, the flats are open, the middle of the field is unpatrolled, and no one can hit me. It's an amazing time to play quarterback. And Aaron was... you know, learn the game and are very much more sophisticated.

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And so he should be dominating as Tom dominated as, you know, as Matthew Stafford is dominating anyone that's hung around long enough to know in a sophisticated time should be dominating. That's how tough it is. And for the jets to go be good. Yeah. And granted he's lost some mobility and everything else, but that's when, you know, someplace they they've got to, they don't understand the position.

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Steve Young, ASU Head Coach Kenny Dillingham, Are The Bengals Back? Jalen Hurts And AJ Brown Used To Be Friends, CFB Playoffs And Guys On Chicks

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If you track Bill Walsh to Andy Reid, and then you track Andy Reid through Mike Shanahan, there's a way that they look at the world. They look at the coaching world as abundant. In other words, whatever I know, I want you to know. So they're unafraid to share.

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Steve Young, ASU Head Coach Kenny Dillingham, Are The Bengals Back? Jalen Hurts And AJ Brown Used To Be Friends, CFB Playoffs And Guys On Chicks

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where so many trees of court of coaches they don't share anything good luck to you bro i got my proprietary knowledge you know to hell with you and and it has doesn't have that abundant spirit so what i'm what what i'm trying to describe you fundamentally is if you're from the bill walls tree you've been taught to share like i'm open and then also i'm because of that and i seek like i i i like abundance in the in the spirit of how i coach you can have everything i have

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Because I'm not staying here. Whatever I have today is not what I'm going to be tomorrow. I reinvent myself. Look at Andy Reid. He's 67 years old, freaking reinventing himself every week. Never stuck. Never thinks, oh, I used to do it, and it works great, and I'm just going to keep calling plays from 2015 because that was when I was great. That's half the league today.

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But why is San Francisco great? Why Kyle great? It's because he's come from a place of, like, look, who's come out of his shop? Mike McDaniel. Like, who's come out of the Shanahan tree, let alone, you know what I mean? Like, because they're, it's like, have everything I got because I'm not staying here. This week against the Rams, watch Sean and Kyle go at it.

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They've been saving stuff so that they can – because they empty the tank when they play each other. The plays, the cool stuff they do, and it's a short week, so they're going to be under real duress to get in all the cool stuff they want to get in because they're not going to – who you knew me yesterday is not who I'm going to be tomorrow.

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And I think Andy does that, and that's why it's – as a quarterback, you're trusted – I believe that you can, I'll call plays that are very aggressive and you protect me. Quarterback, you protect me. It puts a quarterback in a position of great empowerment and like faith. And then I'm going to call plays that make it really easy for you and really hard on defenses.

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Steve Young, ASU Head Coach Kenny Dillingham, Are The Bengals Back? Jalen Hurts And AJ Brown Used To Be Friends, CFB Playoffs And Guys On Chicks

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And I've seen that from Kyle from the beginning. He takes the job of quarterback and makes it as easy as possible and as complex as possible for the defense and then calls plays in combination to just shame them. Like, you think you can play that defense and get away with it? I'm going to pound you. And a lot of guys talk about it on Wednesday. They actually don't call the plays on Sundays.

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Steve Young, ASU Head Coach Kenny Dillingham, Are The Bengals Back? Jalen Hurts And AJ Brown Used To Be Friends, CFB Playoffs And Guys On Chicks

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The first member, I was traded to the St. Louis Cardinals, uh, Uh, Ray Perkins had come in as a head coach, told me he hates lefties and scramblers. You're out of here. Called me and said, I was traded the San Francisco card. I mean, the San Carlos Cardinals, I had made a relationship with the owner, Hugh Cobra house. No one else really knew him. And I he'd sit over in a corner. I go talk to him.

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Steve Young, ASU Head Coach Kenny Dillingham, Are The Bengals Back? Jalen Hurts And AJ Brown Used To Be Friends, CFB Playoffs And Guys On Chicks

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and i immediately called him because he two weeks months before we were trying to get uh bo jackson to come down and he at dinner he goes this is my quarterback for life and so i called him i said mr culver she said i was your quarterback for life and now i'm getting thrown out of town i'm going you can't send me to st louis he goes oh i'm so sorry steve yeah new coach blah blah blah he goes but you're right i told you that i owe you a chance he nixed the trade just to uh to the cardinals like he stuck he went and cut it like i don't know what you do especially but he went and

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you know, turn, you know, and they didn't agree to it. And then, so he called me back and he said, look, I'm going to give you a week and I want you to go find a place where you can thrive. And I'm like, he, he saved my life. And so then I talked to Bill Walsh and Bill Walsh's first thing he said to your question, I love the fact that you're left-handed. I think it's an advantage. I was like,

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I mean, in college, my office coordinator said he wouldn't coach a lefty. So I was like, I think it's an advantage. And I love that your mobility, we're gonna have to make sure we know where you're going, but your mobility is a superpower. And I'm like, first thing out of the gate. And then he said, Joe Montana has just had his second back surgery. And I don't know how he comes back from it.

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And so I'm like, I hate to hear that, but man, that's a real opportunity. And so, and then the first two things happened the first day. The first day I got to the 49ers, we had a summer camp and Bill Walsh walked in and he said something that I'll never forget. He said, look, I don't care what play we call. I don't care what defense we run.

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We're going to win because we have shared common experiences amongst each other and an element of love for each other. That's how we're going to do it. And I was like, did he just, what did he just say? He wrote a book called The Score Takes Care of Itself because if you live values of Because he said, look, we're going to be in Green Bay playing the Packers at Lambeau Field.

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It'll be drizzling rain and 31 degrees. You've never been cold in your life. The wind's going to be whipping. We'll be down by four, third and 10, no timeouts with a minute 10 left. And I want you to get in the huddle and I want to look across the huddle to people that you have a shared experience with and have some level of affection or some level of respect, like you know each other.

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And I was like, this is crazy talk. I've never heard a coach talk like this in my, this is football. Right. What are you talking about? I'm used to coaches with a big stick just hitting you over the head. And so I'm telling you, Bill Walsh gets very, he gets a lot of credit, but not nearly as much as he should get at what the game looks like today.

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like the game that we enjoy today is really off the back of that comp. And I learned it firsthand from the call I got when he told me he loves lefties and scramblers. And, uh, and then when he talked about, uh, but then the next thing we, we ended the meeting, we went out for the first practice and I'd never met Joe Montana and he came running out.

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I mean, there's a book there. Yeah. It's a lot of chapters. It was the dynamic is, and I, and Joe would agree. I mean, it's just been awkward from the first day. Yeah. First day I showed up, it was awkward. And I think if, you know, when we see each other, it's, we never argued. We never had a crossword of each other. Never, I never had an argument.

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I mean, we just didn't, but it was always awkward. And I don't think it was never not awkward. And the day when he was traded to the Chiefs, it remained awkward. When I got there and when we – you know, Bill was crazy. He would – Joe Montana won two Super Bowls. He'd drive the team down in the Superdome, and then he'd go, go in and run this play.

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And I'd run in, and Joe would run off the – like I was – it was a crazy time. And it was all of that. And the fans – It was, they were being whiplashed and it was hard. And of course I was going to lose every conversation. In fact, I'll just one little thing I'll tell you. In 1991, the Gulf War had broken out in the Middle East.

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And on the front page of the San Francisco Chronicle and the headline, because at the time I was playing and things weren't going perfectly. And I think The whole Bay Area and really any 49er fan in the world was like, we need Joe. And I remember thinking to myself, well, he didn't. You guys know he lost a game. Like, no, that's impossible. He threw in a complete pass. I promise you.

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Like, no, we don't remember that. On the first page of the Chronicle, it was the Gulf War. It's Steve Young's fault. You know what I mean? It was like a – and I think that tells you – how it was going for me.

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And, and, and, and I, you know, and Bill, I mean, I think Joe and I both feel, looking back on the relationship we had with Bill Walsh, it was love-hate. Because, you know, he said, I put you guys together to get the best out of both of you. Joe hated to hear that, and I guess I hated to hear that, too. But yet, he was the king, Joe was the king, and I was... I was a freaking pauper, right?

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I somewhat regret that moment because it reflects something I would have said two or three years before, because I, I, uh, I, it's a longer story. I met a guy named Steve Covey on a plane. Once the depths of my career trying to replace Joe and, and I,

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dug a hole of depression and anxiety and victimization and like I was I was struggling and he kind of showed me you know a way you know a perspective that said basically that the 49ers was the greatest platform for iterating to see how good you can get as anything he's ever seen in his life and I was like well no I can't because what I'm just described to you is this place sucks and he's like no this is the greatest chance you've ever had to see how good you can are you afraid to see how good you can get

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I'm like, no, I'm not afraid. Well, then go about, be about it. And I was proven at the time that I was in the bottom of a hole that I had dug, that I had victimized myself and made all the excuses and everything else. And so I think that two or three years before that Superbowl, I had come to a place of perspective to recognize that it really wasn't about him.

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It was really about like, go about, this is the greatest platform in history for a quarterback to see how good they are. Go, go be about it. I remember playing the pack, like the Dallas Cowboys soon after and seeing Troy Aikman in warmups and I ran up to him. I was like, Troy, I'm so glad you're here.

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I'm in this quest to see how good I can get, and I can only find out against the best, and you guys are the best, so I can't wait to play. Troy looked at me like, freaking weirdo. But I was about it. I was about it. And so by the time I did it at the Super Bowl, it was almost...

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it was it felt a little bit like i i was like what do i want to say it was um uh it was it was it was cheap at that point it was more of a thing to do just because it was it was for the cameras because yeah you already wanted a couple mvps yeah performative but everyone sees it as a moment yeah i mean i had that moment two or three years before right what i did right do you feel a little bit bad about what you did to the chargers

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Kind of ran it up on them. Honestly, if someone's going up, like think about the old days when they had someone and they had the shackles behind them and the chain with their legs and they're going up to get guillotined, you know, the crowd would, in the town square, the crowd would gather and then the guy's going to come and get his head cut off, right?

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It's like, even if you're a Charger fan and you're about to see me get my head cut off, you might say, oh, I'm okay with losing because then I didn't see a guy get his head cut off. You know what I mean? There was one less death in the world today. So, I mean, I can't imagine anyone felt bad about that day for me.

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That story is, that has a longer, I tried to tell it as fast as I could, but he took the moments, like he was, he looked like Yoda. He was bald and shorter and kind of curmudgeonly and had a long finger. And he looked at me right in the eye and goes, I think you're afraid to see how good you can get. And I go, I totally understand that because people, human beings are, that scares people.

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Yeah, but I mean... I'm not afraid. He goes, then go be about it, man. And I mean, my life changed right there on a freaking Delta flight from Salt Lake City to San Jose, California. As I went home, I had flown home after practice on Monday just to get out of town. Wow. Because the goal floor was my fault. Like, I had to get out of town.

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And I went to see my brother who was at the University of Utah Medical School. And I walked around with him telling him all my problems. He goes, bro, I got three kids and I'm broke in medical school. Like, what the hell? What are you talking about? I got nothing for my brother. I got nothing for my brother.

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I headed home, headed back to practice on a Tuesday night and sat down next to Stephen Covey.

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He's like, no, I remember he, he, he, We, he, he was, he was, he was from Utah. So he was like, it was somebody I knew and I knew his kids actually a little bit. So it's like, it was a familial thing. I'd understood him, but I never really sat and talked to him ever in my life. And I sat down and just, oh, Steve, nice to meet you. And a great, wonderful. And I'm like, how are you doing?

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And I just, I was at a place where if you ask me how I'm doing. You're getting a half an hour of I'm going to spew out everything because I'm in the pit, man. And that's what I did. And he listened to all of it and basically said, wow. If you want a little bit more, he said, let's see if I hear it all. Man, it sounds really hard. Can I ask you a couple of questions?

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He said, tell me about your owner, Eddie DiBartolo. I'm like, man, that guy's amazing. He sees everything. players and owners as partners. He goes, yeah, I'd heard about him. I really want to meet him. He sounds like an amazing guy. Tell me about your coach, Bill Walsh. And of course, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. He goes, yeah, I really want to meet him too.

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He's a guy that feels like he has a lot to give to the world. And I'm like, yeah, no question. And then he asked me one last question, Steve. is Joe Montana on the team? Is he there? And if you needed to go ask him for advice, could you do it? I'm like, well, yeah, that's the whole problem is he's sitting there on the sidelines hurt.

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And I, I, he goes, yeah, but if you needed a mentorship, could you go ask him? I'm like, yeah, I could. And then he said, man, I've been around a long time. I, this is my seven habits book. This is what I do. I look for companies, platforms where people have, they perform, they give people a chance to iterate and see how good they can get.

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And I just try to, you know, amplify their story so that people can read about it and help their own lives. And I got to be honest with you, as I travel the world, this is the greatest, best platform that I've ever seen for somebody who's set up to go see how good they could get. And I remember when he said it, I was like, wait, didn't you just tell, I just told you a half an hour of crap today.

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Like, what are you trying to turn this on me? And he turned it on my head in a way that just, I freaking changed my life big time.

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No, no. And then I remember getting off the plane Tuesday night thinking, I got to get to work, man. And I've been so, I've been pitching bonus so much. I might get fired. You know, Wednesday mornings when you get fired, right? And so I ran down to that day thinking, please don't fire me. Please don't fire me. I feel like I've got a new lease on life.

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And you talk about that's 1991, and that's towards the end of the season. In 1992, I'm the MVP of the league. I only say that because Steve Covey gave the perspective, you know, shifted my axis to see that I wasn't in a big pit of neglect and victimization. Like, stop. Stop. Yeah. And so I, I'm, I owe him a great debt. I didn't mean to talk about all this today, but no, that's really cool.

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Everything. It changed. And when I said I ran up to Troy, when I ran up to him, said that to him, like, that's what I was. I'm about it.

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You're, if you're a great, I'm about playing you, man. Cause I got to find out. Yeah. Cause I got to figure out. And, and, and, I remember Mike Shannon came in in 1992 as a new offensive coordinator for the 49ers. And I remember talking to him about this at length. And he's like, man, that's inspiring. Let's be about it. Like he went all in.

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And so we just, the two of us, for three years until he freaking committed treason and left for the Broncos, the three years we were together, I mean, I put it up against anything, anywhere, anytime.

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We were thinking about it. Was it close? He was all in. He was all in. And I just, I don't know. I, my wife says that's one of the things I, you know, cause we were newly married at the time and she regrets not like pushing me harder to do it. I was, I was kind of emotionally cooked in some ways. Like you get towards the end, you're like, ah, what am I doing? And I, and I just need, I,

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I should have jumped in. I would have played 2000 to maybe two or three years. 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003 would have been the years I played in Denver if I would have done it.

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I mean, those are good teams. Mike and I, I mean, the two of us, I mean, if history was anything like we had before – It was good stuff.

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Brett Favre losses were different because the championship game we played in Green Bay, my rib was out and I only played like three plays. So I don't worry. That was that one. And then the loss at home in 95, we just couldn't run the football. Like we just, you know, they, we had Gilbert and Reggie white for our line was super hard.

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Like it was just, it wasn't as, I don't know why it wasn't as painful. It was more, it felt more competitive. When I think about the 92 championship game, I throw up in my mouth. Like I really struggle with that one. That was a total screw up. And, The regret I have about that game is heavy.

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criticizing Joe Burrow for doing an interview tipsy uh we were the ones who did the interview with him and we were the drunk guys no no I think I think you're remembering a little bit off you've spoken cigar at LSU and I regret I actually regret that interview for me like what I was like, what, are the kids going to start smoking cigars? Like, stop, Steve. Relax.

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hammered i went home i guarantee i have this pti that i was having fun with it because it was funny to me like i think i enjoyed the fact that i was watching you guys and going what the hell are we doing yeah it was i mean it was i mean it was like a thrill of a lifetime we got to interview the national champion uh heisman how come how come

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I miss my PTA times because it was – Those guys are great questions, and it's always fun. So, yeah, I'm sure they were laughing about you guys.

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Yeah, because we were like, you're about to leave LSU, so it doesn't really matter now. That was real money, right? Yeah, I got plenty of money, too, in my pocket. Yeah. You guys took down a lot in one minute. Nice job.

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on a slide you're likely to bounce your head it puts your head on a pedestal right at the level of people's knees and and and and like you basically are saying and and you and by sliding you're opening yourself up right it's like oh hit me in the face yeah that's what the slide and i think the slide the game look the game changed when they changed the rules it's now a canadian size field uh

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essentially is what we've done is we've expanded the space because defenders can't launch their bodies. The space that's come in the last six or seven years that's put the prototype is now, like, it's my game. I'm, you know, all the people tell me you scramble, you're weird, you're odd. Now I'm like... this is my mainstream. Yeah.

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And so the game's changing and the slide needs to change because it's actually, it can be weaponized by a quarterback. You're seeing Patrick Mahomes, not the slide particularly, but the go out of bounds fake and then come back or the pump fakes or all the stuff that they're doing to abuse defenses. Defenses are really under duress from the NFL by making the rule change for safety.

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And so it feels like And the slide, I never slid. If you can get a quote, any clip of me sliding, it'd be a mistake if I did. Because I always felt like just what you just said, it's dangerous. You get yourself hit in the face. And plus, referees always...

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reduce where you slid like whenever I would I guess I have slid because I know I've done it and they and then all of a sudden it was for a first down and then now I'm a half a yard behind I'm like what are you talking about like I slid to make the first down and they're like no you slid back it's like I learned sliding the the The mentality of it is they don't give you the yards, so forget it.

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I'm not going to do it anymore. Does your mom live with you? What is going on? That's Max.

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He doesn't care? Yeah, he didn't care at all. He just walked right in front of the camera. That was crazy. That was a freaking boring story. I don't need to – No, that was nuts. Like I fell asleep and forgot you guys were live. Max, do you have any questions for Steve? Look, let's go to the slide. You got to change the slide. I was wondering.

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No, but I think the game, it's unfair for defenses today because you've got Lamar Jackson out there sliding.

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you know you guys these guys are i mean these are super super capable people so they put themselves in a bind so what happened with shazir is that he's go they're taught to go when someone slides that you go to hit them to take them down because they're such a threat today because their prototype is to come out and start gaining those free yards out there but then just fly over the top of them go to hit them and if they slide just fly over the top but that's even hard to do so i i think

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I don't know. I think sliding's – to make sliding safe for quarterbacks is impossible, so get rid of it.

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And it's going to get worse and worse as the more mobile, more dynamic of a runner coming out of the pocket the quarterback is, the less – the slide was invented for people who couldn't run. You're now out of your element. You're in a very dangerous, you're now in the jungle now without any weapons. And you're like, how can we get you to safety?

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So the slide was for people who didn't know what they were doing out there. That's just not the case anymore. So the slide is a... The actual – the rule for the slide is for a time that's gone now. The prototype is not the pocket.

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You know, you have to be a sophisticated passer to do the job, but the idea that nobody can go get those yards with their legs, those days are over, so the slide is – the slide is – It's not part of the game today, shouldn't it?

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No room. Yeah. With no space. With no – like that's the thing. The game was – you had to make space as an offense. There was no – people were launching all over the place. Defenders were flying. You couldn't run slip screens. You couldn't – there were no cheap yards. Now, people say, oh, you ran a lot of slants for cheap yards. But tactically, we out –

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you know, we were quicker to the punch in some ways, but it wasn't like, you know, the game was not the game today. So you make a great point. Jerry Rice, every once in a while, you run into somebody like Michael Jordan, who is supreme talent with supreme work ethic, like blue collar over my dead body every day. It's, you know, and I think there's,

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And I think in a person's psyche, what happens is there's a fear that even though I'm amazing at something, I have this fear that I can't get rid of that someone's going to take my job. And I swear to you, I think Michael Jordan was driven by that, even though it's like he's the greatest ever. And Jerry Rice was driven by the same thing.

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So he lived in a state of... I'm not going to say fear because it's the wrong word, but anxiety that I need to go to work. And so I'll give you one quick story. We won the Super Bowl against the Chargers, come home, do the parade down Market Street. The buses pick everyone up from the Market Street, go down to the facility in Santa Clara, drop everyone off.

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The coach makes a speech because he just won the Super Bowl. Hey, see you later. See you at the first OTA in April. And, you know, goodbye. So everybody is like, it's like a,

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derby like to get out of there everyone's gone so the next day no one's no one's gonna go to no one's gonna go down there tomorrow right but i'm single i got nothing to do i'm gonna go down clean up my locker i don't know so i go down there nobody's there and i'm and the doors are locked but i know there's a 24-hour guard that's there all the time so i'm banging on the door banger funny comes like bro what are you doing here i'm like i don't know i cleaned the locker i want to you know

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Big hot dog, I don't know, just something. And I go out to the fields, you know, the 49er facility is still there, same thing. Go out the back of the locker room and there's the fields. I look out and freaking Jerry Rice is out back in the corner. And I can't hardly see that it's him at first. I'm like, who's that freaking crazy man out there in the corner running?

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He's like running routes against air and then he's acting like he's catching the ball. And I'm like, that's Jerry. Holy shit. And I'm like, bro, like take a day off, man. And a couple of things went through my mind. First was, is that Jerry? I said, yes. And the second thing is, the question I asked myself is, am I supposed to go out there and throw it to him?

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Like, man, I don't want to go throw it to him. I can't remember if I did or didn't. I want to believe I went out there and at least tried. But that's when people say, who's Jerry Rice? Jerry Rice is the guy when no one, like he must have had a key somewhere. Because the guard didn't know he's back there. He goes, hey, Jerry Rice is back there. He's like, yes. What the hell? You know?

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I'm like, yeah, he must have. Knowing Jerry had a key. That's crazy. To the gate. And he was going to go do the work. Wow. And so that's Jerry Rice. And so put the numbers of Jerry Rice up there. And look at even today when the game is wide open. Jerry Rice, all his records should be under duress. Right? They should be. being lapped in today's game. And you can't get close to him.

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No, it wasn't that. You guys don't believe the hype now. Come on. That was pre-1985. That was the stick-em era. Now the gloves that they have today are much tackier. than anything that we had when we were playing with in the 80s and 90s much tackier yeah the idea that you can go back behind and grab a ball with one hand like odell does those those gloves are

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Now, look, I don't know how the ceiling is, and you've got to go through some filters like I told you, but you've got to get into a spot where you can get some help. What I didn't like about Caleb's game yesterday is in the first half, like, look, clearly under duress. Things are really going south fast.

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get out man and start like make plays like we're not going down this way and so what i didn't like about his game yesterday is he just kind of sat there looking for the third guy waiting for someone to come open like no get out go make something happen refuse to go down that way so there's still learning that he's going to have but i early there's some things i've seen this year that i feel like i would want to invest in caleb for sure um

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I don't think it's fair to say CJ Stroud anymore because I think we've seen it. Now we just got to get it developed and get him all the help that he needs and everything else. I really feel that he's in a great spot. Help me go around the league. I'm just thinking what the Sam Darnold is going to – I mean, what do the Vikings do?

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You're insane to not sign a guy that's doing that for you. Right. He's playing as well as you could expect.

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McCarthy? I would be Bill Walsh and say, look, awkward, but let's go. You know who will benefit? The Vikings. Right. We don't know which one of you will benefit more or less, but right now the Vikings will benefit. Yeah. And as long as you don't have a toxic personality, which I know JJ is not, and I know Sam's not like, you know, Joe and I were not toxic personalities.

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We weren't going to inflame things in the locker room. It wasn't going to be worse because of the awkwardness. Now that can happen. You don't want that, but I would be unafraid, especially with my history. I'd like, bro, Two of you, let's just, let's go.

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Especially if you get JJ for free for a few years. Right. So, you know, I don't know. I just, when someone's playing great football in the NFL today and you know that, you know, over and over again, As Sam has shown this year, I believe that this is the truth of Sam Darnold. He will grow from here. He's going to be like Josh Allen. He can run. He can move.

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He can do all the things that you need from a prototype quarterback today to get out and get those free yards. And I would not let... Sam Darnold go at all. And I don't care who you have at quarterback, other than maybe Patrick or Josh, I would say bring him in. If you can get him at a price that works, make it awkward, man. If they're going to let him go, do not.

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And if I was Sam, I am not going back to one of those places that doesn't take care of, that doesn't understand the quarterback position. So I will go compete with, to go to one of those places that does.

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Football is weird, different, because the job is to go ram into other people, and it's unusual. You know, as a team game, look, there's UFC, there's boxing, there's other things that, you know, that's part of, that's the game. But the game in football is, I gotta go get people to ram into other people. And honestly, it's not natural. And so for the human condition, I don't care how tough you are.

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It's not natural to just go like, I can't wait to go ram into somebody. And so in football, when things were, when you have a sense of, of one, right? And we're accountable and we work together and we have each other's back and, you know, over my dead body. And like, then that natural incentive comes, like it comes out of people, like it comes out of the locker room.

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Like you can feel it, feel it in warmups. Like I swear I can watch a team warm up and I can feel the level of this over my dead body feeling, this sense of commitment to go ram into somebody this week, I'm ready.

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and so when you start losing and then you're out of it then it's tough because naturally even tough veterans of the nfl human is like i really don't want to ram anybody this week like i'd rather not and so it it makes it super hard more than any other sport that when things are you know you're out of the playoffs you're you know you're just you know running out the clock of the season

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when you have to go hit people, it makes it that much harder to get them to go do it. And so as a coach, you know, a lot of coaches use threats and cause they're under, if they're out of it too, they're probably a little under duress as well. So a losing locker room that's out of the playoffs is actually a kind of a dangerous place to hang out because you go to play and not everybody's committed.

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You get yourself hurt. Right. And so in that way, um, you, You pray that you're in a locker room like the 49ers this last week and go, hey, look, no way. And then there's leadership in there and there's a commitment to it and we're not going to go down that way. It's probably a little bit of a DNA thing that they've had for a while.

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But teams that have lost for a long time and it's part of their culture and their dynamic now, it is brutal when you get out of the playoffs and now you have to go figure out how to go play and show who you are. Like the idea that I'm going to go play quarterback on a losing team that's out of the playoffs. How do I – Let's say I'm all in 100%. I need five linemen that are all in 100%.

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I'm not going to say they're not, but human nature says, I really don't want to ram in anybody this week. So, you know, and so I'm not going to be tip of the spear, you know, ready. It's hard. I feel for teams that are in that mode all the time. I saw it in Tampa Bay for one season. I was there for one full season and there were no losers on the team. But it was a losing place. Right.

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And it was impossible to change. I mean, some of the toughest human beings I ever met, James Wilder, I don't know if you ever read that name before, running back. I mean, tough. I mean, passages. These guys are, all years I played, some of the toughest people I knew were down there. But the culture and the feeling, you just couldn't get over it. And it gets, it's infectious. It's infecting.

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And I feel bad for teams that can't get out of it. And teams that are constantly in it, I blame ownership. And unfortunately in this league, you can't, because equity ownership is not going to change. You can't, People don't really talk about it because they can't feel like they can't change it. They can get the coach fired. They can get the general manager fired.

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They can get the quarterback fired. So people, that's where they talk. They can't get the owner fired. But the problem, 99% chance is the owner. How do we hold the owner accountable? How do we do that as a, as a city, as a fan base, as a, I mean, we need to be thinking about how we help ownership be accountable. Yeah. Make the team.

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If they could feel that accountability and answer to it, it would help the team. And so I don't know how to – you guys figure it out. How do we figure out – Fly an airplane with a banner behind it.

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Well, if you feel that way, then it really doesn't matter who is the general manager, who the coach is, who's the quarterback. Yeah. like you can't overcome apathy yeah that's what you guys are saying if you guys are saying that chicago bear ownership is apathetic then you guys got to figure out how to address it.

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I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I just know that the league would be an even better league. We're a great league right now. We're an even better league if we could figure out a way to hold the ultimate equity owner is accountable.

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In the NFL. The year I was in the USFL, the Express, that's all I did was a shotgun. I loved it. And it's – Bill didn't – Bill Walsh didn't believe in it. He didn't believe the timing could be – it wasn't until John Elway and Mike Shanahan used the same offense in 98 – and showed, no, no, it doesn't matter. And I remember when John was doing it from the shotgun, I'm like, frick, why?

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Like, it doesn't matter. And from the shotgun, it's just such a better spot to be – to play quarterback. And so, yeah, no, I never – in the NFL, I never played one snap of shotgun, which is – That's crazy.

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You're a recurring guest. I got to tell you, my dad's nickname is Grit. Okay, nice. I see the sign behind you. And Angela Duckworth wrote the book Grit.

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And he's in the book. which is weird. That is. If you're serious about grit, I'm in. Yeah, we do a grit week. If it's just a sign, if it's just a cheap sign that Max walks by and spits on, then I'm not coming back. No, we do grit week every year. Yeah, we do grit week. If it's true you guys are about it, then I'm about it.

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All right. Thanks so much, Steve. You guys got a lot of good therapy for me. I appreciate the time. Yeah, absolutely.