Steven Bartlett

I mean, once the norms are broken and once the laws have changed, then it can be anybody can take advantage of it.

I mean, if Trump can use the federal bureaucracy to threaten media companies, then why can't the next president?

And so, you know, certain things don't necessarily get fixed once they're broken.

What you're watching is everybody all over the world hedging.

Everybody is looking for alternatives.

So you now have an EU-India trade agreement, which nobody would have bothered to do a few years ago.

You have Canada initiating a security relationship with the EU.

You have conversations inside NATO about, you know, realistically, if the United States weren't to help us in case of a Russian attack, what would we do?

So those aren't really public conversations, but privately, lots of people are having them.

Everywhere you go, you see these so-called middle powers.

This is a term that Mark Carney of Canada first started using.

You know, Brazil, India, the EU countries, Japan, you see them beginning to make new relationships with one another.

You know, if the United States flakes out and we can't trade with them in a normal way anymore because the president changes the trading rules every five minutes, then at least we'll have a decent trading relationship with somebody else.

I travel a lot.

I've traveled a lot in the last three months.

And everywhere I go, that's the main topic of conversation.

Canada.

Canada was completely integrated with the United States.

I mean, it almost didn't have an independent economy.

And now the Canadians are thinking, how do we benefit from our oil and gas wealth to protect our sovereignty?