Steven Bartlett
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Appearances Over Time
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So look at what ICE looks like.
They are masked.
They are wearing military uniforms.
They are often driving unmarked cars.
They drive in vans.
They're not driving in police vans.
And they're not following the rules of local police.
They're not accountable to anybody.
They're not accountable to the mayor, you know, or to the governor of the state where they are.
And that gives them a kind of impunity and a kind of ability to behave badly.
And they seem to be accountable directly to the Homeland Security Department and to the president.
And we've already seen how this can affect the behavior of ICE.
So we saw during the protests and the arrests and the protests in Minnesota, we saw two people were killed.
And what was really horrifying to me wasn't just that they were killed.
It was how the administration reacted.
You know, it was Vance and Noem and several other people immediately said of the people who were killed, they were guilty.
So instead of saying, this is horrible, you know, that an American police force killed a β these were both U.S.
citizens.
I mean, there have been other people killed too, by the way, but these two were notable because they were U.S.
citizens and they weren't immigrants.