Steven Bartlett

And that also has allowed us to be separate.

And we share a lot of views, but not all.

And so we, you know, we have kind of different trajectories.

Yeah.

But as I said, I find mostly knowing what it's like to be a politician helps me understand them.

No.

You can't have two politicians, one family.

You know, a lot of what I do is journalism or something, or journalist adjacent.

You know, I go and try and find things.

I try and explain them.

I try and say what I think is happening.

And the job of a politician is quite different from that.

You know, it's to, you arrive...

With a set of views, you need to explain them to people, you need to convince them.

It's just, it's a different way of thinking about approaching the public.

So I'm not campaigning for a cause.

There's an outcome that's general but not specific.

In other words, I'm not trying to elect any particular person to be president.

I do have a goal that is to remind people of why democracy is important, why we need to maintain it, and to pay attention to the ways in which it's declining so that we can fight back.

I mean, I have a broad goal in that sense.