Steven Bartlett

It manages the road system.

It sometimes organizes healthcare.

It regulates the insurance markets.

It does all kinds of governance, pollution.

And all those people who do those jobs –

it's very important that they be people who know how to do them.

So you want the person who's measuring air pollution, you want that person to be an expert in air pollution.

You don't want them to be, you know, the president's cousin.

Or the person who is regulating the insurance market, you want that to be someone who knows about insurance markets.

And you don't want it to be the best friend of the vice president.

In corrupt autocracies, that is who gets those jobs.

Right.

And so he's tried to undermine Jerome Powell.

He's sued Jerome Powell, or he's investigating him, rather, for some kind of fake financial scandal.

And he tried to put pressure on him to resign.

He tried to put pressure on him to change his policy.

And, you know, honestly, I don't know whether the person who will come in next will be more susceptible, but he's certainly been chosen because Trump thinks he is.

And so what Trump wants is to have civil servants who are historically independent, and that includes the chairman of the Fed.

It includes actually the Department of Justice.

The attorney general usually has some independence.