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Steven Bartlett

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The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Pulitzer Prize Historian: You Won't Notice Until It's Too Late!

And the people who are really in favor of free speech and they're vanishingly few are the people who are willing to call it out on both sides.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Pulitzer Prize Historian: You Won't Notice Until It's Too Late!

And one of the things you often hear now from these so-called free speech warriors is that they're perfectly happy to shout about the left canceling people or left-wing rhetoric that they don't like.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Pulitzer Prize Historian: You Won't Notice Until It's Too Late!

But then they keep quiet when it comes from the other side.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Pulitzer Prize Historian: You Won't Notice Until It's Too Late!

So there is a difference between someone sending you an email and saying, you know, look, this has been flagged by a monitoring group as maybe fake or as maybe Russian disinformation or as, you know, coming from some kind of foreign influence campaign.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Pulitzer Prize Historian: You Won't Notice Until It's Too Late!

And so, you know, it would be great if you took it down or demoted it.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Pulitzer Prize Historian: You Won't Notice Until It's Too Late!

And there's a difference between that and taking over the company in order that the president gets to dictate what's on it.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Pulitzer Prize Historian: You Won't Notice Until It's Too Late!

Nobody coerced Meta into doing anything.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Pulitzer Prize Historian: You Won't Notice Until It's Too Late!

Or Twitter.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Pulitzer Prize Historian: You Won't Notice Until It's Too Late!

Nobody said, you know, Twitter will pay a fine if you don't do X or Y. In the context of people looking for foreign influence campaigns, there were conversations about what was appropriate to print and what wasn't.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Pulitzer Prize Historian: You Won't Notice Until It's Too Late!

So Section 230 essentially allows the platforms to escape the rules that newspapers, for example, have to abide by.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Pulitzer Prize Historian: You Won't Notice Until It's Too Late!

So actually we do have regulations.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Pulitzer Prize Historian: You Won't Notice Until It's Too Late!

We have libel laws.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Pulitzer Prize Historian: You Won't Notice Until It's Too Late!

We have laws about terrorist content, for example.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Pulitzer Prize Historian: You Won't Notice Until It's Too Late!

So there are laws that regulate some parts of speech that we've agreed are good in order to maintain peace and so on.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Pulitzer Prize Historian: You Won't Notice Until It's Too Late!

And the platforms are exempt.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Pulitzer Prize Historian: You Won't Notice Until It's Too Late!

Okay.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Pulitzer Prize Historian: You Won't Notice Until It's Too Late!

because of Section 230.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Pulitzer Prize Historian: You Won't Notice Until It's Too Late!

And so the platforms have argued that we don't control what's put up on our platforms and we don't bear any responsibility for it.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Pulitzer Prize Historian: You Won't Notice Until It's Too Late!

I'm not sure that removing Section 230 is the best way to deal with this, but making the online world

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Pulitzer Prize Historian: You Won't Notice Until It's Too Late!

conformed to the same laws as the offline world seems to me kind of very basic.