Steven Bartlett

And so it's really important that we vote, that we know who we're voting for, that we vote in all elections, including local ones.

When people become nihilistic, when they say they're all the same, I don't care who wins the election, it's not worth voting because, you know, they're all corrupt.

This is what autocrats try to create, right?

So what does Putin want Russians to do?

Does he want them to be political?

No.

He wants them to stay out of politics.

You know, what do the Chinese want?

They want their people out of politics.

And so whenever you see too many people who have responded to that kind of negative inspiration, that's when you should worry.

And I worry a lot about the United States on exactly those grounds, actually.

Look at how the leader of your country talks about the press, how he or she talks about the judges, the judiciary, how he or she talks about the civil service.

A real Democrat respects those institutions and wants them to stay in place precisely so that democracy can remain, so that at the next election there will be a fair election.

You know, some of them have business models that are biased.

So Fox's business model is to appeal to the right-leaning part of the American population and to encourage them in their biases and get them to watch TV.

There's some media that are now dependent on polarization and kind of live off it.

There are some who try to be neutral, but even neutrality is hard to achieve now because—

A neutral investigation that turns up something bad about the Trump administration will immediately incur the reaction on the part, you know, you're biased.

We've lost our assumption that press are operating in good faith.

No.