Steven Bartlett

That's kind of the narrative of all these tools.

But maybe this technology renders us only useful for that which humans can do, which is the relationships thing you were talking about and connection and being out touching grass with our friends and family.

Is there a utopia?

I wanted to get your POV as well on all this war stuff that's going on over in the Middle East.

What you thought Trump was trying to do and actually what happened?

Because, you know, he's talking about, oh, no, we said it would be six weeks.

It's five and a half weeks.

Everything's going to plan.

We're winning the war.

And you're good at seeing through things.

What actually happened in your view here?

I watched a press conference of his last night where he said this, which kind of links to what you were saying.

And I just thought, you know what?

If I was running Iran, that's exactly what I would want.

We don't know who to deal with, Trump.

We don't even know who to negotiate with.

If he can't negotiate, he can't do anything.

So I think the Iranians potentially, the IRGC, are saying, no, we don't even know who's leading.

Because then what can you do?

You can't just keep bombing.