Steven Bartlett

If you'd said to me, anywhere between 49 and 61, I think I would have believed you.

I'm sorry, let me take that out.

I'm 49, Stephen.

What is it that, you know, you're 61, I'm 33.

Yeah.

What is it that I don't know as a 30-year-old that I'm going to find out in the next 30 years that I should know?

What is the most important thing that I should know about the next 30 years?

Yeah.

I see so much emotion in you when you talk about it.

Your eyes are filled with tears as you start talking about your boys.

Yeah.

Because I know a lot about you because I've interviewed you a couple of times now and I've read your books and so on.

And I find that fascinating because I don't know what it is.

I don't know where that emotion comes from because lots of people sit here and talk about their kids.

Right.

But the minute you started mentioning them and the impact they've had on you in terms of helping you find your purpose, I could see the emotion in your eyes.

Yeah.

Well, and there's some things that surprised me.

So many of the themes we've talked about today, especially at the end of this conversation, are in your new book, Notes on Being a Man, How to Address the Masculinity Crisis, Build Mental Strength, and Raise Good Sons.

I've had so many of my friends, actually both men and women, talk to me about this book, because I think so many of us have been looking for a roadmap on exactly these subjects.