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Steven Bonnell (Destiny)

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1548 total appearances

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

I'll fast forward to Hamas that intentionally attempts to induce those same civilian numbers because Hamas is guilty of any war crime that you would potentially accuse. And this is according to Amnesty International, people that Norm loves to cite.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

Hamas is guilty of all of these same war crimes, of them failing to take care of the civilian population, of them essentially utilizing human shields to try to fire rockets free from attack. Essentially, yes.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

Hamas is guilty of all of these same war crimes, of them failing to take care of the civilian population, of them essentially utilizing human shields to try to fire rockets free from attack. Essentially, yes.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

Hamas is guilty of all of these same war crimes, of them failing to take care of the civilian population, of them essentially utilizing human shields to try to fire rockets free from attack. Essentially, yes.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

I'm just saying that essentially, in terms of how international law defines it, not how Amnesty International defines it, but Amnesty International describes times of human shielding, but they don't actually apply the correct international legal standard.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

I'm just saying that essentially, in terms of how international law defines it, not how Amnesty International defines it, but Amnesty International describes times of human shielding, but they don't actually apply the correct international legal standard.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

I'm just saying that essentially, in terms of how international law defines it, not how Amnesty International defines it, but Amnesty International describes times of human shielding, but they don't actually apply the correct international legal standard.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

I know, absolutely. You haven't the clues. I absolutely don't know. You haven't the clues. I absolutely don't. But you can't find it on Wikipedia. I'm just saying, I'm just saying, believe it or not, Norm. You can't find it on Wikipedia. The entire Geneva Convergence is all on Wikipedia. It's a wonderful website.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

I know, absolutely. You haven't the clues. I absolutely don't know. You haven't the clues. I absolutely don't. But you can't find it on Wikipedia. I'm just saying, I'm just saying, believe it or not, Norm. You can't find it on Wikipedia. The entire Geneva Convergence is all on Wikipedia. It's a wonderful website.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

I know, absolutely. You haven't the clues. I absolutely don't know. You haven't the clues. I absolutely don't. But you can't find it on Wikipedia. I'm just saying, I'm just saying, believe it or not, Norm. You can't find it on Wikipedia. The entire Geneva Convergence is all on Wikipedia. It's a wonderful website.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

But I'm just saying that on the Hamas side, if there's an attempt to induce this type of military activity, attempt to induce civilian harm, that it's not just enough to say like, well, here's a diary entry where a guy talks about how tragic these attacks are.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

But I'm just saying that on the Hamas side, if there's an attempt to induce this type of military activity, attempt to induce civilian harm, that it's not just enough to say like, well, here's a diary entry where a guy talks about how tragic these attacks are.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

But I'm just saying that on the Hamas side, if there's an attempt to induce this type of military activity, attempt to induce civilian harm, that it's not just enough to say like, well, here's a diary entry where a guy talks about how tragic these attacks are.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

I'll give you โ€“ you know who for me is a perfect example? Well, wait. Hold on. We don't need examples. No. Go ahead. The false equivalency of the two sides is astounding.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

I'll give you โ€“ you know who for me is a perfect example? Well, wait. Hold on. We don't need examples. No. Go ahead. The false equivalency of the two sides is astounding.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

I'll give you โ€“ you know who for me is a perfect example? Well, wait. Hold on. We don't need examples. No. Go ahead. The false equivalency of the two sides is astounding.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

When Hamas kills civilians in a surprise attack on October 7th, this isn't because they are attempting to target military targets and they happen to stumble into a giant festival of people that โ€“ Well, they did happen to stumble into it. They did, but when they stumbled into it, it wasn't an issue of trying to figure out a military target or not. They weren't failing in distinction.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

When Hamas kills civilians in a surprise attack on October 7th, this isn't because they are attempting to target military targets and they happen to stumble into a giant festival of people that โ€“ Well, they did happen to stumble into it. They did, but when they stumbled into it, it wasn't an issue of trying to figure out a military target or not. They weren't failing in distinction.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

When Hamas kills civilians in a surprise attack on October 7th, this isn't because they are attempting to target military targets and they happen to stumble into a giant festival of people that โ€“ Well, they did happen to stumble into it. They did, but when they stumbled into it, it wasn't an issue of trying to figure out a military target or not. They weren't failing in distinction.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

There wasn't a proportionality assessment done. It was just to kill civilians.