Steven Bonnell (Destiny)

Can we talk about the targeting civilian thing a little bit? I think there's like an important underlying, not necessarily that. I just, I think it's important to understand. Yeah, I think it's important to understand there's like three different things here that we need to think about. So one is a policy of killing civilians.

Can we talk about the targeting civilian thing a little bit? I think there's like an important underlying, not necessarily that. I just, I think it's important to understand. Yeah, I think it's important to understand there's like three different things here that we need to think about. So one is a policy of killing civilians.

Do we, so I would ask the other side, I'm going to ask all three because I know there won't be a short answer. Do you think there is a policy top-down from the IDF to target civilians? That's one thing. A second thing is— He said yes. Yeah, sure. Okay, yeah. That's fine. Okay. But then the second thing is—or there's two distinctions I want to draw between. I think Benny would say this.

Do we, so I would ask the other side, I'm going to ask all three because I know there won't be a short answer. Do you think there is a policy top-down from the IDF to target civilians? That's one thing. A second thing is— He said yes. Yeah, sure. Okay, yeah. That's fine. Okay. But then the second thing is—or there's two distinctions I want to draw between. I think Benny would say this.

Do we, so I would ask the other side, I'm going to ask all three because I know there won't be a short answer. Do you think there is a policy top-down from the IDF to target civilians? That's one thing. A second thing is— He said yes. Yeah, sure. Okay, yeah. That's fine. Okay. But then the second thing is—or there's two distinctions I want to draw between. I think Benny would say this.

I would say this. I am sure, undoubtedly, there have been cases where IDF soldiers, for no good reason, have targeted and killed Palestinians that they should not have done, that would be prosecutable as war crimes as defined by the Rome Statute and the ICC.

I would say this. I am sure, undoubtedly, there have been cases where IDF soldiers, for no good reason, have targeted and killed Palestinians that they should not have done, that would be prosecutable as war crimes as defined by the Rome Statute and the ICC.

I would say this. I am sure, undoubtedly, there have been cases where IDF soldiers, for no good reason, have targeted and killed Palestinians that they should not have done, that would be prosecutable as war crimes as defined by the Rome Statute and the ICC.

And some have been. been prosecuted.

And some have been. been prosecuted.

And some have been. been prosecuted.

According to you and your books, practically none. I'm sure that we would all agree for soldiers that that happens. But I think that it's important.

According to you and your books, practically none. I'm sure that we would all agree for soldiers that that happens. But I think that it's important.

According to you and your books, practically none. I'm sure that we would all agree for soldiers that that happens. But I think that it's important.

I think that it's important that when we talk about military strikes, when we talk about things especially involving bombings or drone attacks, these are things that are signed off by multiple different layers of command, by multiple people involved in an operation, including intelligence gathering, including weaponry, and there also have typically lawyers involved.

I think that it's important that when we talk about military strikes, when we talk about things especially involving bombings or drone attacks, these are things that are signed off by multiple different layers of command, by multiple people involved in an operation, including intelligence gathering, including weaponry, and there also have typically lawyers involved.

I think that it's important that when we talk about military strikes, when we talk about things especially involving bombings or drone attacks, these are things that are signed off by multiple different layers of command, by multiple people involved in an operation, including intelligence gathering, including weaponry, and there also have typically lawyers involved.

When you make the claim that an IDF soldier shot a Palestinian, those three people, the three hostages that came up with white flags and something horrible happened, I think that's a fair statement to make. And I think a lot of criticism is deserved. But when you make the statement that four children were killed by a strike, The claim that you're making, yeah. Deliberately, yes.

When you make the claim that an IDF soldier shot a Palestinian, those three people, the three hostages that came up with white flags and something horrible happened, I think that's a fair statement to make. And I think a lot of criticism is deserved. But when you make the statement that four children were killed by a strike, The claim that you're making, yeah. Deliberately, yes.

When you make the claim that an IDF soldier shot a Palestinian, those three people, the three hostages that came up with white flags and something horrible happened, I think that's a fair statement to make. And I think a lot of criticism is deserved. But when you make the statement that four children were killed by a strike, The claim that you're making, yeah. Deliberately, yes.