Steven Bonnell (Destiny)

I don't remember. Maybe it was, what's his name? Jacques de Rainier.

Yeah, maybe he came up with that number. But it was just, he didn't count. They didn't count bodies. They just threw the number out and everybody was happy to blame the Irgun and the Lehi for, you know, killing more Arabs than actually... Well, and they put it to good use as well. Well, they said that it helped to precipitate more evacuations.

Yeah, maybe he came up with that number. But it was just, he didn't count. They didn't count bodies. They just threw the number out and everybody was happy to blame the Irgun and the Lehi for, you know, killing more Arabs than actually... Well, and they put it to good use as well. Well, they said that it helped to precipitate more evacuations.

Yeah, maybe he came up with that number. But it was just, he didn't count. They didn't count bodies. They just threw the number out and everybody was happy to blame the Irgun and the Lehi for, you know, killing more Arabs than actually... Well, and they put it to good use as well. Well, they said that it helped to precipitate more evacuations.

They also used that number. Yeah, sure. Yeah.

They also used that number. Yeah, sure. Yeah.

They also used that number. Yeah, sure. Yeah.

Well, from my knowledge of the 120 years or so of conflict, the closest I think the two sides have been to reaching some sort of settlement appears to have been in the year 2000 when Barack and then subsequently Clinton offered a two-state settlement to PLO, Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasser Arafat. Arafat seemed to waver.

Well, from my knowledge of the 120 years or so of conflict, the closest I think the two sides have been to reaching some sort of settlement appears to have been in the year 2000 when Barack and then subsequently Clinton offered a two-state settlement to PLO, Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasser Arafat. Arafat seemed to waver.

Well, from my knowledge of the 120 years or so of conflict, the closest I think the two sides have been to reaching some sort of settlement appears to have been in the year 2000 when Barack and then subsequently Clinton offered a two-state settlement to PLO, Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasser Arafat. Arafat seemed to waver.

He didn't immediately reject what was being offered, but ultimately came down at the end of Camp David in July 2000. He came down against the proposals and Clinton, who said he wouldn't blame him later, blamed Arafat for bringing down the summit. not reaching a solution there.

He didn't immediately reject what was being offered, but ultimately came down at the end of Camp David in July 2000. He came down against the proposals and Clinton, who said he wouldn't blame him later, blamed Arafat for bringing down the summit. not reaching a solution there.

He didn't immediately reject what was being offered, but ultimately came down at the end of Camp David in July 2000. He came down against the proposals and Clinton, who said he wouldn't blame him later, blamed Arafat for bringing down the summit. not reaching a solution there.

But I think there on the table, certainly in the Clinton parameters of December 2000, which followed the proposals by Barak in July, the Palestinians were offered the best deal they're ever going to get from Israel, unless Israel is destroyed and then there'll just be a Palestinian Arab state. But the best deal that Israel could ever offer them, they were offered.

But I think there on the table, certainly in the Clinton parameters of December 2000, which followed the proposals by Barak in July, the Palestinians were offered the best deal they're ever going to get from Israel, unless Israel is destroyed and then there'll just be a Palestinian Arab state. But the best deal that Israel could ever offer them, they were offered.

But I think there on the table, certainly in the Clinton parameters of December 2000, which followed the proposals by Barak in July, the Palestinians were offered the best deal they're ever going to get from Israel, unless Israel is destroyed and then there'll just be a Palestinian Arab state. But the best deal that Israel could ever offer them, they were offered.

which essentially was 95% of the West Bank, East Jerusalem, half of the Old City of Jerusalem, some sort of joint control of the Temple Mount and the Gaza Strip, of course, in full. And the Palestinians said no to this deal. And nobody really knows why Arafat said no. That is, some people think he was trying to hold out for slightly better terms. But my reading is that he was

which essentially was 95% of the West Bank, East Jerusalem, half of the Old City of Jerusalem, some sort of joint control of the Temple Mount and the Gaza Strip, of course, in full. And the Palestinians said no to this deal. And nobody really knows why Arafat said no. That is, some people think he was trying to hold out for slightly better terms. But my reading is that he was

which essentially was 95% of the West Bank, East Jerusalem, half of the Old City of Jerusalem, some sort of joint control of the Temple Mount and the Gaza Strip, of course, in full. And the Palestinians said no to this deal. And nobody really knows why Arafat said no. That is, some people think he was trying to hold out for slightly better terms. But my reading is that he was

constitutionally, psychologically incapable of signing off on a two-state deal, meaning acceptance of the existence of a Jewish state. This was really the problem.