Steven Bonnell (Destiny)

And it's not going to be the international community or some invocation of international law or some invocation of morality or justice that's going to extricate us from this conflict. It's going to take some actual difficult political maneuvering on the ground.

which they formally did in 1993. Yeah, but then no lasting peace came after that in 2000.

which they formally did in 1993. Yeah, but then no lasting peace came after that in 2000.

which they formally did in 1993. Yeah, but then no lasting peace came after that in 2000.

Sure, the Oslo Accords didn't have a final solution.

Sure, the Oslo Accords didn't have a final solution.

Sure, the Oslo Accords didn't have a final solution.

I think you're being a bit one-sided. Both sides didn't fulfill... The promise of Oslo and the steps needed for Oslo. There was Palestinian terrorism, which accompanied Israel's expansion of settlements and other things. The two things fed each other and led to what happened in 2000, which was a breakdown of the talks altogether when the Palestinians said no.

I think you're being a bit one-sided. Both sides didn't fulfill... The promise of Oslo and the steps needed for Oslo. There was Palestinian terrorism, which accompanied Israel's expansion of settlements and other things. The two things fed each other and led to what happened in 2000, which was a breakdown of the talks altogether when the Palestinians said no.

I think you're being a bit one-sided. Both sides didn't fulfill... The promise of Oslo and the steps needed for Oslo. There was Palestinian terrorism, which accompanied Israel's expansion of settlements and other things. The two things fed each other and led to what happened in 2000, which was a breakdown of the talks altogether when the Palestinians said no.

I don't agree, incidentally, with this definition of Israel or the Israeli state as apartheid. It's not. There is some sort of apartheid going on in the West Bank. The Israeli regime itself is not an apartheid regime. That is nonsense by any definition of apartheid.

I don't agree, incidentally, with this definition of Israel or the Israeli state as apartheid. It's not. There is some sort of apartheid going on in the West Bank. The Israeli regime itself is not an apartheid regime. That is nonsense by any definition of apartheid.

I don't agree, incidentally, with this definition of Israel or the Israeli state as apartheid. It's not. There is some sort of apartheid going on in the West Bank. The Israeli regime itself is not an apartheid regime. That is nonsense by any definition of apartheid.

No, it doesn't qualify. Apartheid is a race-based distinction between different segments of the population. And some of them don't have any representation at all, like the blacks in South Africa. No rights at all. In Israel itself, the minority, the Arabs, do have representation, do have rights, and so on. I don't think Israel is also genocidal. I don't think it's been genocidal.

No, it doesn't qualify. Apartheid is a race-based distinction between different segments of the population. And some of them don't have any representation at all, like the blacks in South Africa. No rights at all. In Israel itself, the minority, the Arabs, do have representation, do have rights, and so on. I don't think Israel is also genocidal. I don't think it's been genocidal.

No, it doesn't qualify. Apartheid is a race-based distinction between different segments of the population. And some of them don't have any representation at all, like the blacks in South Africa. No rights at all. In Israel itself, the minority, the Arabs, do have representation, do have rights, and so on. I don't think Israel is also genocidal. I don't think it's been genocidal.

It wasn't so in 1948. It wasn't so in 1967. And it hasn't been recently, in my view. And talk about dismantling Israel, and that's what you're talking about, is I think Stephen said it correctly, is counterproductive. It just pushes Israelis further away from willing to give Palestinians anything.

It wasn't so in 1948. It wasn't so in 1967. And it hasn't been recently, in my view. And talk about dismantling Israel, and that's what you're talking about, is I think Stephen said it correctly, is counterproductive. It just pushes Israelis further away from willing to give Palestinians anything.

It wasn't so in 1948. It wasn't so in 1967. And it hasn't been recently, in my view. And talk about dismantling Israel, and that's what you're talking about, is I think Stephen said it correctly, is counterproductive. It just pushes Israelis further away from willing to give Palestinians anything.

Everybody forgets Israel's atomic weaponry. I know, but... So how could they have been defeated?