Steven Bonnell (Destiny)
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first heard Mar 2024
last heard Mar 2024
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Hold on. Wait, there's not a... He's not blaming them for the Holocaust. He's saying that from the perspective... No, no, no. He's saying that from the perspective of Jews in the region, Palestinians would have been part of the region. That is exactly what he said.
You don't understand him. He's in right here.
That's great. I read Danny Morris. And you don't even speak Hebrew and you call yourself an Israeli historian. We're all here on different grounds. I just want, if I can just respond to you. Well, no, no. I'm just saying that there were two tricks. That's fine. There were two tricks that are being played here that I think is interesting.
One is you guys claim that the Leahy was trying to forge an alliance with Nazi Germany because of a shared idea. ideology. That's what they said. Yeah, but hold on. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's about what you said. You brought that up to imply that Zionism must be inexorably linked. No, I'm sorry. No, you're putting words in my mouth. Okay, wait.
Well, then what was the purpose of saying that the Leahy claimed that they, the Leahy who were small group of people that were reviled by many in Israel. Not many, by everybody practically. They were called terrorists.
The Zionist movement called them terrorists. Yes.
And Begin was also... Yes.
No, no, no. Characterize him as relevant or irrelevant based on what happens decades later. The timeline matters. Well, the question is, what is the point of saying that the Leahy tried to forge an alliance?
The Mufti was the leader of the Palestine Arab National Movement.
The Hungarian foreign minister, the Italian foreign minister, received letters from Husseini during the Holocaust. During the Holocaust, don't let the Jews out. Don't let the Jews out. I'm not saying he was a major architect of the Holocaust.
And probably wanted the destruction of European Jewry.
In 1941, he wasn't prime minister of Israel. He was a leader of a very small terrorist group denounced as terrorists by the mainstream of Zionism.
But I didn't bring it up. You're the one who's bringing it up.
Belittling the Holocaust. That's what you're saying. The president of the Palestinian National Authority belittled the Holocaust and it didn't happen, or only a few Jews died.
He was a terrorist leader of a very small marginal group. Kaj Amin al-Husseini was the head of the movement at the time.
Also, the point of bringing up Husseini stuff wasn't to say that he was a great further of the Holocaust. It's that he might have been a great further in the prevention of Jews fleeing to go to Palestine to escape the Holocaust.
I don't understand. I think that the reason why he was brought up was because Jewish people in this time period would have viewed it as there was a prevention of Jews leaving Europe because of the Palestinians pressuring the British to put a curb, that 75,000 immigration limit, yes. But it's not about them furthering the Holocaust or being an architect, major or minor play on the Holocaust.
It was a major play on that region.
The indirect role would have been the prevention of people escaping from the Holocaust.
But second of all— How can you disagree with that? They prevented—they forced the British to prevent emigration of Jews from Europe and reaching safe shores in Palestine.
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