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Steven Pack

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
397 total appearances

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Web3 with Sam Kamani
356: Leverage, Liquidity & The Future of ETH Staking with Guest Speaker Steven Pack from RockSolid

That's true.

Web3 with Sam Kamani
356: Leverage, Liquidity & The Future of ETH Staking with Guest Speaker Steven Pack from RockSolid

And this is why, so there are people that do this themselves, but you become a kind of a hedge fund manager, whether you like it or not, because you have to manage, you have to be monitoring the borrow rate, as you said.

Web3 with Sam Kamani
356: Leverage, Liquidity & The Future of ETH Staking with Guest Speaker Steven Pack from RockSolid

Yes.

Web3 with Sam Kamani
356: Leverage, Liquidity & The Future of ETH Staking with Guest Speaker Steven Pack from RockSolid

If it's going, you don't just want to know when it gets higher than the staking rate, because by that time it's kind of too late, you're losing money.

Web3 with Sam Kamani
356: Leverage, Liquidity & The Future of ETH Staking with Guest Speaker Steven Pack from RockSolid

And then you've got to deleverage and it actually takes time to deleverage.

Web3 with Sam Kamani
356: Leverage, Liquidity & The Future of ETH Staking with Guest Speaker Steven Pack from RockSolid

And I won't go into all the details why.

Web3 with Sam Kamani
356: Leverage, Liquidity & The Future of ETH Staking with Guest Speaker Steven Pack from RockSolid

So that's why it's much better to have it managed by, you know, a 24 hour on team or teams in our case with monitoring with tools.

Web3 with Sam Kamani
356: Leverage, Liquidity & The Future of ETH Staking with Guest Speaker Steven Pack from RockSolid

This is happening now, actually.

Web3 with Sam Kamani
356: Leverage, Liquidity & The Future of ETH Staking with Guest Speaker Steven Pack from RockSolid

There's some big movements of ETH happening in the market.

Web3 with Sam Kamani
356: Leverage, Liquidity & The Future of ETH Staking with Guest Speaker Steven Pack from RockSolid

And so we, for example, have deleveraged some of the position as we saw it growing.

Web3 with Sam Kamani
356: Leverage, Liquidity & The Future of ETH Staking with Guest Speaker Steven Pack from RockSolid

Not when it became unprofitable, but when it's going directionally that way.

Web3 with Sam Kamani
356: Leverage, Liquidity & The Future of ETH Staking with Guest Speaker Steven Pack from RockSolid

And so that

Web3 with Sam Kamani
356: Leverage, Liquidity & The Future of ETH Staking with Guest Speaker Steven Pack from RockSolid

It's like everything has risks, right?

Web3 with Sam Kamani
356: Leverage, Liquidity & The Future of ETH Staking with Guest Speaker Steven Pack from RockSolid

But the thing with a looping strategy is the risks are quite well known and there's a certain amount of data you can backtest on as well.

Web3 with Sam Kamani
356: Leverage, Liquidity & The Future of ETH Staking with Guest Speaker Steven Pack from RockSolid

And there are mitigating strategies to be able to get around them.

Web3 with Sam Kamani
356: Leverage, Liquidity & The Future of ETH Staking with Guest Speaker Steven Pack from RockSolid

But it's much easier to do as a fund with relationships and with tools and, you know, than it is on your own.

Web3 with Sam Kamani
356: Leverage, Liquidity & The Future of ETH Staking with Guest Speaker Steven Pack from RockSolid

That's a really good question, Sam.

Web3 with Sam Kamani
356: Leverage, Liquidity & The Future of ETH Staking with Guest Speaker Steven Pack from RockSolid

And yeah, tokenomics is a weird and wonderful world.

Web3 with Sam Kamani
356: Leverage, Liquidity & The Future of ETH Staking with Guest Speaker Steven Pack from RockSolid

Although maybe not having its moment in the sun at the moment.

Web3 with Sam Kamani
356: Leverage, Liquidity & The Future of ETH Staking with Guest Speaker Steven Pack from RockSolid

I don't know.