Steven Pressfield

I could write 15 books.

I could make who knows what.

Certainly, I have to.

which is part of why I go to the gym, you know, to think of, I don't want to start thinking that I'm on the way down or I haven't got, you know, life is long.

It's longer than we think.

And we have in the sense of it's opportunity to do stuff, but it's also an obligation to do stuff, to keep evolving, so on and so forth.

On another sort of side of, I don't know if this was, this will be confessional for me.

I know when I was a kid, our family was sort of like the black sheep of our bigger family.

Like everybody, all of my uncles and stuff were all really successful.

And my dad was kind of struggling, you know?

And so it became...

A thing in my mind where I said, just looking ahead for how long you're going to live, I said, I'm going to show these motherfuckers that our family is not what they think they are, you know?

And so that's been a real driver for me, more so than any idea of mortality.

Even over those long years where I was getting nowhere, that to sort of honor my dad and that I was going to, you know,

Hang in there and do something.

It certainly was not, you know, I'm only becoming aware of it now.

I mean, if you think about Larry Bird and Magic Johnson,

You know, how they kind of made each other, you know, boom, boom, boom.

And now they're the best of friends.

Steve Jobs and Bill Gates early on.