Steven Rinella

The biggest typical whitetail, I believe the biggest typical whitetail is hunter-killed.

I could be messing that up, but for a while, it was the biggest non-typical was a deadhead.

So, within the system, like,

why would you guys not be keeping track of stuff that came in off long lines or stuff that came in on Frank Mundus' boat just as a way of saying, hey, the ocean in 1986 was capable of producing a 3,500 great white.

They had a Marlin eat 150 pound tuna.

Yeah.

So those, those kind of, those, those freaks that fall outside of angling rules would still in some way be captured.

Oh, we want to know.

So that at some point in time, someone could refer back and be like, man, whatever was going on then, um, one, a, this is the optimistic view.

We're somehow now producing bigger fish than we've ever known to be produced.

Or more likely, we just are not seeing that happen anymore.

How often do you guys find a record that you later learn to be fraudulent or illegitimate?

Like I remember, and it doesn't have to be, it doesn't have to be crookedness.

Like I remember, and I can't remember if this is IGFA or a state thing.

I don't remember what state it was, but there had been this longstanding, there's this longstanding channel cat record.

And there's an old photo of this guy standing there with a channel cat.

Well, someone, some brilliant person a couple of years ago had the idea, why not count the rays on its fins?

which you could see in the image was a blue cat.

It was a blue cat.

Yeah.