Steven Rinella

Like, people got to eat, you know?

If you wanted to live in a world with no herbicides and no pesticides, you should probably plan on losing about half the world's population to starvation.

Right?

It's like a real fucking conundrum.

Um, it could be that anyone that's poor dies because we don't use herbicides and pesticides anymore, or we continue to like wipe out insect species and wipe out plant species that, that are some of the foundation of, you know, all of our environmental shit, you know?

Yeah.

It's, it's one of those, it's one of those hidden things.

And it's like, and a lot of people, um,

A lot of people aren't hip to it, you know, but I have the, like, I have the luxury of, of, of, I have the luxury of just like occupying a, a, a world and occupying a conversation that, you know, some guy that works his fucking ass off and, you know, gets to hunt a few weekends a year.

And he's happy if he can hunt four weekends a year, it's just like, he just doesn't have time for.

hearing about all that shit you know yeah because he's got whatever he's trying to fucking raise his family and so there's people that just there's a lot of sportsmen that don't know and it's not necessarily like ignorance it's just like it's just complicated yeah so they might be like what's wrong with hunting you know why are you not seeing deer and it's like oh fucking coyotes it's like yeah it's more complicated dude that's easy but it's it's more complicated you know interesting yeah the predator thing is is a is a

And you wind up fighting both extremes.

Like I wind up arguing, I'm always arguing with people that think that like, I'm always arguing with people that think that wolves fucking walk around eating granola or flowers, you know, and be like, no, dude, wolves have a major impact.

Coyotes have a major impact.

And then I turn around, I'm arguing with some guy that thinks it's the only thing that matters is that if we just killed more coyotes, the world would be overrun with wild game.

You're like, you guys are both fucked up.

Damn.

You guys are both wrong.