Steven Rinella

And stayed on a super yacht owned by a contractor who has done a hundred million dollars in contract work for the NRA, build some airfare to the NRA and goes to the Bahamas and does a lengthy vacation, which it's a, it's a vacation that costs hundreds of thousands of dollars in total when pressed on it.

LaPierre said it was a safety, a security vacation that after the Sandy Hook shooting, things were so hot.

I had to get somewhere to protect my safety.

And I knew I could protect my safety if I went into the Bahamas and stayed on this super yacht.

But then it's like, but how is it that you were also at a family member's wedding while you were there?

Mm-hmm.

That was pre-planned.

So for that reason, some of this caused like a lot of internal upheaval and internal strife within the NRA.

And some people, even though Leticia James is in no way trying to help the NRA, she's not like, oh, I feel bad.

This is really terrible that they're misusing their funds.

She's going like, I want to kill the NRA.

How could I kill them?

Well, I'll kill them over this, pretending like I'm trying to help.

Members and protect member money, but it brings up all this embarrassing stuff.

It's caused a ton of trouble for the NRA.

Um, and then within this fight, there's this other fight.

They use the main PR firm so that, so here's the NRA is a nonprofit organization, but much of their work is done by a PR firm, which is a for-profit organization.

So what you have in nonprofit land is you wind up going like, okay,

We'll take tons of money and hand it to our PR firm.

I mean, hundreds of millions of dollars and hand it to the PR firm.