Steven Spielberg

And I insisted, when George Lucas presented the MacGuffin,

that I want to make an Indiana Jones movie, George said, where they go after the cup of Christ.

They go after the Holy Grail.

I thought that was great.

But I suddenly realized, oh my God, it's metaphorical.

Why don't we have Indy's father, the person that's been doing all the research on the Grail, and Indy's been estranged from his father.

And they kind of have a meeting of the hearts.

They meet halfway.

I can almost reach your dad.

Indiana.

Indiana, let it go.

The grail of that relationship was really the understanding and the communion that father and son have by the third act of The Last Crusade.

I wonder whether at this point in your life and career, there are other things that you would like to work out in film and sort of what stage you're at with that now as film as therapy, I guess I should say.

Yeah, film as therapy.

Sometimes I'll go into a movie consciously saying this film, like when I made The Fablemans, I said, well, somebody's going to have to write a check for $40 million of therapy for me.

I didn't pay for it.

Oh, yeah, totally autobiographical.

Very, very accurate to my own memory of my experiences, my relationships with my sisters, my mom, my dad, all that.

But, you know, sometimes I don't know I'm working out anything until I'm right in the middle of the process, right in the middle of the movie.

And I suddenly, it'll remind me of something when I was a kid that, oh, I'm dealing with something that I've buried for 60 years and wow, it's back and maybe I can deal with it here.