Steven

But you do end up getting an offer of a very famous offer when you're 23 years old from Mark Zuckerberg at Facebook.

How does that story begin? Is it an email, a phone call, an introduction?

How does that story begin? Is it an email, a phone call, an introduction?

Instagram was sold for a billion, was it? Yeah. A billion, yeah. And WhatsApp was 19 billion roughly. Yeah, I think so. You're 23 years old at that point. You've got Facebook, Mark Zuckerberg, offering you a lot of money. I heard that it was $3 billion they offered. Yeah, we never talked about it publicly, but yeah. Is that the number?

Instagram was sold for a billion, was it? Yeah. A billion, yeah. And WhatsApp was 19 billion roughly. Yeah, I think so. You're 23 years old at that point. You've got Facebook, Mark Zuckerberg, offering you a lot of money. I heard that it was $3 billion they offered. Yeah, we never talked about it publicly, but yeah. Is that the number?

Okay. But did you get an offer?

Okay. But did you get an offer?

I'm trying to understand, as a 23-year-old, if someone offers me $3 billion for an app that I've started, you said you're probably still at your dad's house or in the blue office at that point.

I'm trying to understand, as a 23-year-old, if someone offers me $3 billion for an app that I've started, you said you're probably still at your dad's house or in the blue office at that point.

You're in your dad's house, and someone's offering you $3 billion for an app. What wisdom do you have that enables you to turn that down?

You're in your dad's house, and someone's offering you $3 billion for an app. What wisdom do you have that enables you to turn that down?

Did you ever get to meet with Mark or speak to Mark about it?

Did you ever get to meet with Mark or speak to Mark about it?

And he was keen to buy it?

And he was keen to buy it?

I'm just so, I'm so interested to see how those things play out. It's almost, it sounds like something you'd see in a movie where you get this call from someone like Mark Zuckerberg, who's built this massive empire. And it feels like you get summoned. I would imagine you get summoned from your dad's house to come and meet him. And you went to Facebook's offices to meet him, I'm guessing in person.

I'm just so, I'm so interested to see how those things play out. It's almost, it sounds like something you'd see in a movie where you get this call from someone like Mark Zuckerberg, who's built this massive empire. And it feels like you get summoned. I would imagine you get summoned from your dad's house to come and meet him. And you went to Facebook's offices to meet him, I'm guessing in person.

And did he tell you that he was going to copy you if you didn't sell?

And did he tell you that he was going to copy you if you didn't sell?

And I'm guessing you didn't want to join a big company at that point.