Steven

There's so much conversation at the moment around the impact that social media has on kids, anxiety, all of the sort of toxic things around comparison and – becoming more isolated. Have you developed an agreement with your wife, with your kids, with your family about social media usage going forward?

There's so much conversation at the moment around the impact that social media has on kids, anxiety, all of the sort of toxic things around comparison and – becoming more isolated. Have you developed an agreement with your wife, with your kids, with your family about social media usage going forward?

Even if Finn says, I want to watch, I want TikTok dad. That might be a bridge too far. Because TikTok's like, I don't even use TikTok myself personally because it's, from what I hear, it's like crack cocaine for people. They're just on there for like three or four hours a day scrolling mindlessly. If Finn came home and said, I want to use TikTok, Dad, you'd say no?

Even if Finn says, I want to watch, I want TikTok dad. That might be a bridge too far. Because TikTok's like, I don't even use TikTok myself personally because it's, from what I hear, it's like crack cocaine for people. They're just on there for like three or four hours a day scrolling mindlessly. If Finn came home and said, I want to use TikTok, Dad, you'd say no?

TikTok was going to be banned and then Trump swooped in and seemed to save the day. Is that a good thing? As a CEO of Snapchat, was part of you hoping that it was banned because then maybe more people would come over and use Snap? Did you think about that?

TikTok was going to be banned and then Trump swooped in and seemed to save the day. Is that a good thing? As a CEO of Snapchat, was part of you hoping that it was banned because then maybe more people would come over and use Snap? Did you think about that?

It sounds like Trump wants to buy it. which was a very interesting suggestion. And it's worrying because it sets a bit of a precedence that potentially an app like Snapchat, the UK might decide, listen, we don't know if we can trust you because you're an American. So we want to buy the UK version in order for you to have Snapchat be in the UK. That could set a worrying precedence around the world.

It sounds like Trump wants to buy it. which was a very interesting suggestion. And it's worrying because it sets a bit of a precedence that potentially an app like Snapchat, the UK might decide, listen, we don't know if we can trust you because you're an American. So we want to buy the UK version in order for you to have Snapchat be in the UK. That could set a worrying precedence around the world.

Snapchat eventually goes public. Running a public company is difficult, to say the least, because the share price can go up and down really irrespective of what you're doing and what you're building. And it's really a reflection of the broader market, people's emotions and vibes. But you have to manage that as a CEO. Not easy, I imagine.

Snapchat eventually goes public. Running a public company is difficult, to say the least, because the share price can go up and down really irrespective of what you're doing and what you're building. And it's really a reflection of the broader market, people's emotions and vibes. But you have to manage that as a CEO. Not easy, I imagine.

When I think about sitting in your shoes or sitting in your seat, I think about all the things you could do. As a public company, I think you could do anything. You could go after any game. And at some point, as you kind of said there when you used the word painfully, you're going to have to make a decision to focus on something.

When I think about sitting in your shoes or sitting in your seat, I think about all the things you could do. As a public company, I think you could do anything. You could go after any game. And at some point, as you kind of said there when you used the word painfully, you're going to have to make a decision to focus on something.

And even at the level I'm at with the businesses I run and so on, the hardest thing for me is, especially when you're somewhat creative, et cetera, is to pick something. And to say no to everything else. And I've looked at your philosophy and I know saying no and focus is so central to your sort of leadership style, but also how you think as an entrepreneur.

And even at the level I'm at with the businesses I run and so on, the hardest thing for me is, especially when you're somewhat creative, et cetera, is to pick something. And to say no to everything else. And I've looked at your philosophy and I know saying no and focus is so central to your sort of leadership style, but also how you think as an entrepreneur.

Tell me about those painful moments where you had to kill something that you didn't want to kill.

Tell me about those painful moments where you had to kill something that you didn't want to kill.

So how do you think about what to go after? There's all these new technologies. There's these buzzwords. There's AI now. There's... there's VR, there's headsets, there's wearables, there's all these things. How do you decide what bet is your bet?

So how do you think about what to go after? There's all these new technologies. There's these buzzwords. There's AI now. There's... there's VR, there's headsets, there's wearables, there's all these things. How do you decide what bet is your bet?

And you also don't know the time horizon for when the world will sufficiently change in the direction that your bet has been placed. I think about Google Glass, which was, I don't even know when, it was like a decade ago that people were saying, okay, we're going to be wearing glasses and Google had this Google Glass thing and it just seemed to like vanish and disappear.

And you also don't know the time horizon for when the world will sufficiently change in the direction that your bet has been placed. I think about Google Glass, which was, I don't even know when, it was like a decade ago that people were saying, okay, we're going to be wearing glasses and Google had this Google Glass thing and it just seemed to like vanish and disappear.