Steven

I'm keen to hear Gary's view on this because I understand yours because you've just said it.

Yeah, I think these are great statistics. And of course, the US has a strong reputation for being very free markets and being very small states in the last five years, 10 years, 15 years. we've had a UK government that has been aggressively slashing the state.

Yeah, I think these are great statistics. And of course, the US has a strong reputation for being very free markets and being very small states in the last five years, 10 years, 15 years. we've had a UK government that has been aggressively slashing the state.

And the US, we had a government in the last four years which has been running a massive, massive deficit. So in that period of time, it appears the government which has been aggressively increasing its deficit has massively overperformed the government which has been aggressively slashing the state.

And the US, we had a government in the last four years which has been running a massive, massive deficit. So in that period of time, it appears the government which has been aggressively increasing its deficit has massively overperformed the government which has been aggressively slashing the state.

That's what it looks to be from the last... I mean, Joe Biden enormously increased the deficit, enormously, and the Conservatives were austerity government for 14 years. Which one seems to have given the better numbers?

That's what it looks to be from the last... I mean, Joe Biden enormously increased the deficit, enormously, and the Conservatives were austerity government for 14 years. Which one seems to have given the better numbers?

So do you think government services have it funded now?

So do you think government services have it funded now?

You don't want government... You don't think that spending on government services has been slashed?

You don't want government... You don't think that spending on government services has been slashed?

Do you think the police spending has been slashed?

Do you think the police spending has been slashed?

So are you saying we should tax working people less?

So are you saying we should tax working people less?

I want to cut the taxes on those entrepreneurs and raise the taxes on the billionaires because I worked my tits off. How many billionaires are in the UK? There's a lot of billionaires in the UK. It's 150. Yeah, so tax them all. What do they pay? Listen, I worked my tits off. And I paid, it was 50% top rate of tax. 50% top rate of tax plus national insurance, 60%. So a million a year.

I want to cut the taxes on those entrepreneurs and raise the taxes on the billionaires because I worked my tits off. How many billionaires are in the UK? There's a lot of billionaires in the UK. It's 150. Yeah, so tax them all. What do they pay? Listen, I worked my tits off. And I paid, it was 50% top rate of tax. 50% top rate of tax plus national insurance, 60%. So a million a year.

To bring my family out of poverty. At the same time, the Duke of Westminster inherited £10 billion and paid nothing. Do you think that's fair?

To bring my family out of poverty. At the same time, the Duke of Westminster inherited £10 billion and paid nothing. Do you think that's fair?

Okay, why is it not true?