Steven

The only time we've ever really been able to provide decent living conditions for ordinary working people was the period after the war where we massively redistributed wealth. And now we're losing that holding of wealth of the middle class.

The only time we've ever really been able to provide decent living conditions for ordinary working people was the period after the war where we massively redistributed wealth. And now we're losing that holding of wealth of the middle class.

Can you acknowledge though that that was a completely different time?

Can you acknowledge though that that was a completely different time?

As it relates to being able to... It was a different time, but you know, I could, you know... Because of technology. Nigeria today, Brazil today, the UK 300 years ago, France 200 years ago. There is only one specific time that we have ever successfully provided broad living standards for ordinary people.

As it relates to being able to... It was a different time, but you know, I could, you know... Because of technology. Nigeria today, Brazil today, the UK 300 years ago, France 200 years ago. There is only one specific time that we have ever successfully provided broad living standards for ordinary people.

And it was a period of time where we protected a broadly equal wealth distribution and taxed the rich at very high rates.

And it was a period of time where we protected a broadly equal wealth distribution and taxed the rich at very high rates.

And you can acknowledge that that's extremely hard to do because the nature of the economy is now different.

And you can acknowledge that that's extremely hard to do because the nature of the economy is now different.

That's the reason why all of our grandparents and our great-grandparents and our great-great-grandparents lived in poverty. And that's why I know I'm probably going to lose. And that's why I bet on the economy getting worse. And that's why I know poverty is going to increase. Because it was extremely difficult to get that unusually fair share for ordinary working people.

That's the reason why all of our grandparents and our great-grandparents and our great-great-grandparents lived in poverty. And that's why I know I'm probably going to lose. And that's why I bet on the economy getting worse. And that's why I know poverty is going to increase. Because it was extremely difficult to get that unusually fair share for ordinary working people.

And I know we're losing the argument. And I know that Farage will win. And I know that Trump will win. And I know that things will get worse.

And I know we're losing the argument. And I know that Farage will win. And I know that Trump will win. And I know that things will get worse.

I don't think I'm going to win. So if you know you're promoting a strategy that is not going to work and it sounds like you think is incredibly, almost impossible, then why would you not be more practical in your solution?

I don't think I'm going to win. So if you know you're promoting a strategy that is not going to work and it sounds like you think is incredibly, almost impossible, then why would you not be more practical in your solution?

Stephen, if it was impossible, I wouldn't be here.

Stephen, if it was impossible, I wouldn't be here.

So you think it's possible?

So you think it's possible?