Steven

But... work hard, study hard, try to get a good job, but also understand we are shrinking the seats on the lifeboat. That's what we're doing. We used to allow 50% to be secure. Then it's 40%. Then it's 30%. Then it's 20%. You know, you've got family in Nigeria. If a young person from, like, Shantytown in Nigeria came to you and said, Stephen, what can I do to get rich?

You would have to say to them realistically, listen, you are in a difficult situation here. You need to work really, really hard. But if you are able to make enough money to support a family, be proud of yourself.

You would have to say to them realistically, listen, you are in a difficult situation here. You need to work really, really hard. But if you are able to make enough money to support a family, be proud of yourself.

What I would actually say to them, so yeah, I have got family in Nigeria. For people that don't know, I'm by blood half Nigerian. I would say to them that knowledge is really your life raft. So obviously there's a big tech boom happening in Nigeria, which is liberating a lot of people from that situation.

What I would actually say to them, so yeah, I have got family in Nigeria. For people that don't know, I'm by blood half Nigerian. I would say to them that knowledge is really your life raft. So obviously there's a big tech boom happening in Nigeria, which is liberating a lot of people from that situation.

So I would try and tell them to get on the life raft that is like knowledge of this new revolution. So from Nigeria, you can learn to code. And then the great thing now is that we literally have, actually, this is quite interesting. We're building a tech company in San Francisco called Flightcast. It's live. Everyone can go look at it, flightcast.com.

So I would try and tell them to get on the life raft that is like knowledge of this new revolution. So from Nigeria, you can learn to code. And then the great thing now is that we literally have, actually, this is quite interesting. We're building a tech company in San Francisco called Flightcast. It's live. Everyone can go look at it, flightcast.com.

And the lead developer, oh, and Guess Radar, the lead developer of Guess Radar is a Nigerian guy.

And the lead developer, oh, and Guess Radar, the lead developer of Guess Radar is a Nigerian guy.

But how many of those jobs in the Nigerian tech sector are going to kids that grew up in the shanty towns? I have no idea. Because I worked in... People ask me, tell me how to do what you did. I worked in Canary Wharf. It's in East London. I could see the building from my house growing up. There was not a single other kid from East London the whole time I was there.

But how many of those jobs in the Nigerian tech sector are going to kids that grew up in the shanty towns? I have no idea. Because I worked in... People ask me, tell me how to do what you did. I worked in Canary Wharf. It's in East London. I could see the building from my house growing up. There was not a single other kid from East London the whole time I was there.

Do you know, to Dan's point about this remote work revolution where work now has... You can work from anywhere. And in our company, Third Web, San Francisco, some of the staff that we now have are in the Philippines because they just have great creatives there. It's obviously more cost-effective.

Do you know, to Dan's point about this remote work revolution where work now has... You can work from anywhere. And in our company, Third Web, San Francisco, some of the staff that we now have are in the Philippines because they just have great creatives there. It's obviously more cost-effective.

Isn't this a huge part of what's going on in our economy, this digitalisation and this remotification of work?

Isn't this a huge part of what's going on in our economy, this digitalisation and this remotification of work?

It is, it is, it is. But I think for many people, you know, I'm sure you pay your workers in the Philippines very, very well. Most of these people, they used to have a half-decent wage on office and now they're locked in their bedrooms, barely paying the bills.

It is, it is, it is. But I think for many people, you know, I'm sure you pay your workers in the Philippines very, very well. Most of these people, they used to have a half-decent wage on office and now they're locked in their bedrooms, barely paying the bills.

In the Philippines? Not in the Philippines. The Philippine guys are balling out of control.

In the Philippines? Not in the Philippines. The Philippine guys are balling out of control.

No, I'm saying the Philippines is booming at the moment. So you think the average person in the Philippines is living a luxurious life? What's happening at the moment… Do you think the average person in the Philippines is living a luxurious life?