Steven

I think that's a really big problem. I think that's a really big problem.

I think that's a really big problem. I think that's a really big problem.

I know, listen, and I know you've got this podcast and I know you inspire young people and I think that's a good thing. I think it's a good thing that you inspire young people to go out and work hard and try and achieve something. But I'm an economist and what I see is the percentage of young people who make it shrinking.

I know, listen, and I know you've got this podcast and I know you inspire young people and I think that's a good thing. I think it's a good thing that you inspire young people to go out and work hard and try and achieve something. But I'm an economist and what I see is the percentage of young people who make it shrinking.

And I think if you combine those two things, you reach a really dangerous place because we go and tell the young people, it's there for you to start a business. And at the same time, the number of people who make it is 10%. 5%, 2%, 1%. And there will always be that one person who makes it. There will always be that Stephen Bartlett in every country in the world who's making it through.

And I think if you combine those two things, you reach a really dangerous place because we go and tell the young people, it's there for you to start a business. And at the same time, the number of people who make it is 10%. 5%, 2%, 1%. And there will always be that one person who makes it. There will always be that Stephen Bartlett in every country in the world who's making it through.

You know what I'm saying? But the systematic issue matters, Stephen.

You know what I'm saying? But the systematic issue matters, Stephen.

Can we not change the education system so that when I was 16 and they threw me in the exclusion unit, which could so easily have made me think that I was a failure, because my brothers, Jason went to LSE and became very much like you and now works in my company. managing my investments. He, in the education system, was rewarded.

Can we not change the education system so that when I was 16 and they threw me in the exclusion unit, which could so easily have made me think that I was a failure, because my brothers, Jason went to LSE and became very much like you and now works in my company. managing my investments. He, in the education system, was rewarded.

So I sat there as a kid thinking, rich and successful, my older brother Jason, because he can do maths. And I thought, I'm going to be a failure because I like this thing called entrepreneurship and I have ADHD, so I can't pay attention in lessons.

So I sat there as a kid thinking, rich and successful, my older brother Jason, because he can do maths. And I thought, I'm going to be a failure because I like this thing called entrepreneurship and I have ADHD, so I can't pay attention in lessons.

What I'm saying is if the education system was designed in such a way where people like me who are entrepreneurial, who are interested in the internet and couldn't stop playing video games were clapped for and said, oh my God, double down on that. I think...

What I'm saying is if the education system was designed in such a way where people like me who are entrepreneurial, who are interested in the internet and couldn't stop playing video games were clapped for and said, oh my God, double down on that. I think...

the net benefit, when you think about what the backbone of the economy is, which is entrepreneurs starting businesses, would be profound for this country here. But I think that I believe there needs to be such a radical overhaul of our education system if we want to stand a chance of capitalising on what the economy is today.

the net benefit, when you think about what the backbone of the economy is, which is entrepreneurs starting businesses, would be profound for this country here. But I think that I believe there needs to be such a radical overhaul of our education system if we want to stand a chance of capitalising on what the economy is today.

Yeah, I think... I think you could probably change the education system in a lot of ways that could improve it. But you're kind of changing the education system on the Titanic.

Yeah, I think... I think you could probably change the education system in a lot of ways that could improve it. But you're kind of changing the education system on the Titanic.

What my perspective is, I can tell you with a very, very high rate of certainty, if you don't fix this problem of the wealth being sucked out of the middle class, 95, 98% of people will be in poverty in this country in 70 years.

What my perspective is, I can tell you with a very, very high rate of certainty, if you don't fix this problem of the wealth being sucked out of the middle class, 95, 98% of people will be in poverty in this country in 70 years.