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And for someone who doesn't know your work and isn't aware of you, they might be thinking, how would you know, Erica? How would you know the answer?

We're going to go through all of that today. I'm very excited to learn more about all of this. I'm not a parent myself. From all the investigative research we've done, you have three very well-adjusted children. So congratulations for that. And I hope to have successful children myself one day. But I'm also just really interested in

We're going to go through all of that today. I'm very excited to learn more about all of this. I'm not a parent myself. From all the investigative research we've done, you have three very well-adjusted children. So congratulations for that. And I hope to have successful children myself one day. But I'm also just really interested in

understanding myself through the work that you've done and the work that you continue to do, because we're all at one point children and much of the fingerprints of that early experience still exists in us today.

understanding myself through the work that you've done and the work that you continue to do, because we're all at one point children and much of the fingerprints of that early experience still exists in us today.

So I'm keen to understand how things that might have happened to me or anyone listening today when we were younger may have shaped us in pro-social, anti-social ways or productive or unproductive ways. You mentioned that you still see clients and patients today. What kind of patients do you see? What are they struggling with and who are they? Are you seeing the parents, the kids, both?

So I'm keen to understand how things that might have happened to me or anyone listening today when we were younger may have shaped us in pro-social, anti-social ways or productive or unproductive ways. You mentioned that you still see clients and patients today. What kind of patients do you see? What are they struggling with and who are they? Are you seeing the parents, the kids, both?

And they come to you typically because they're noticing something is not right with their child.

And they come to you typically because they're noticing something is not right with their child.

Why do you mention mothers and not fathers in that? Because you seem to have an emphasis on the role that a mother plays, and it seems to be more important in your view than the role that a father plays, or maybe even that a nanny or some other caregiver could play.

Why do you mention mothers and not fathers in that? Because you seem to have an emphasis on the role that a mother plays, and it seems to be more important in your view than the role that a father plays, or maybe even that a nanny or some other caregiver could play.

And I noticed that on your first book, which was written in 2017, being there, on the cover it says, why prioritising motherhood in bigger letters? in the first three years matters. Scientifically, evolutionarily, with studies and research, how can you make the case to me to make me believe that the role of the mother in particular is essential versus a father or other caregiver?

And I noticed that on your first book, which was written in 2017, being there, on the cover it says, why prioritising motherhood in bigger letters? in the first three years matters. Scientifically, evolutionarily, with studies and research, how can you make the case to me to make me believe that the role of the mother in particular is essential versus a father or other caregiver?

Can a father do that?

Can a father do that?

playful, tactful stimulators of babies.

playful, tactful stimulators of babies.

So interesting, because these aren't the ideas that are socially accepted, or at least the ideas you see on social media. And funnily enough, as you were speaking, I recorded everything you said, and I ran it through AI, and AI said the core ideas that you shared are well supported by evolutionary psychology and neuroscience, which is quite surprising, because usually... AI argues with people.

So interesting, because these aren't the ideas that are socially accepted, or at least the ideas you see on social media. And funnily enough, as you were speaking, I recorded everything you said, and I ran it through AI, and AI said the core ideas that you shared are well supported by evolutionary psychology and neuroscience, which is quite surprising, because usually... AI argues with people.

Why is it that what you say is so troubling for some people? You know why, right? Because it makes us confront a set of realities that