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Now, people might not agree with everything you say because people have lots of different opinions on these subjects, but I'm of the opinion that people who are willing to deliver their thoughts, their truth, based on the science that they've experienced and that they've read and what they've studied and the experiences that they've had, the clients that they've seen,

It's so unbelievably important, because I think if we look back through history, progress has occurred when people have dissented from the accepted narrative. In fact, I probably wouldn't be able to sit here in America as a black man if it wasn't for people who had the courage of their convictions to dissent from certain narratives. And so I've always, I think I've had it hardwired into me that

It's so unbelievably important, because I think if we look back through history, progress has occurred when people have dissented from the accepted narrative. In fact, I probably wouldn't be able to sit here in America as a black man if it wasn't for people who had the courage of their convictions to dissent from certain narratives. And so I've always, I think I've had it hardwired into me that

Disagreement is productive, especially when it's well-meaning. And that's exactly how I see your work. I think that you're challenging a narrative, bringing evidence and a new opinion to the table, a different perspective that I think is very, very important for so many. And it's been so interesting for me because I've struggled.

Disagreement is productive, especially when it's well-meaning. And that's exactly how I see your work. I think that you're challenging a narrative, bringing evidence and a new opinion to the table, a different perspective that I think is very, very important for so many. And it's been so interesting for me because I've struggled.

I'm approaching that season of life where I become a father and I'm reading all this stuff about leave your kid to cry on the floor in the supermarket or put them in timeout or...

I'm approaching that season of life where I become a father and I'm reading all this stuff about leave your kid to cry on the floor in the supermarket or put them in timeout or...

Yeah, I know. So I've been trying to wade through this storm of like parenting advice and bullshit and stuff. And it's really wonderful to hear your perspective because it is a counter perspective. It's the perspective that nobody really wants to say out loud. And therefore, for me, it's useful. Thank you, Erica. Thank you so much for your time and generosity today. I really, really appreciate it.

Yeah, I know. So I've been trying to wade through this storm of like parenting advice and bullshit and stuff. And it's really wonderful to hear your perspective because it is a counter perspective. It's the perspective that nobody really wants to say out loud. And therefore, for me, it's useful. Thank you, Erica. Thank you so much for your time and generosity today. I really, really appreciate it.

And please continue to do the work you do. And I'm very excited for your upcoming book. I think it's next year, isn't it?

And please continue to do the work you do. And I'm very excited for your upcoming book. I think it's next year, isn't it?

about divorces. If anyone wants to find more of your work, we've got these two exceptional books here, Being There, Why Prioritising Motherhood in the First Three Years Matters, which is a wonderful book that was published in 2017, I believe. And then this one here, Chicken Little, The Sky Isn't Falling, Raising Resilient Adolescents in the New Age of Anxiety, which was published in 21, I believe.

about divorces. If anyone wants to find more of your work, we've got these two exceptional books here, Being There, Why Prioritising Motherhood in the First Three Years Matters, which is a wonderful book that was published in 2017, I believe. And then this one here, Chicken Little, The Sky Isn't Falling, Raising Resilient Adolescents in the New Age of Anxiety, which was published in 21, I believe.

I'll link both of these below. I highly recommend you read these books if you're interested in these subjects like I am. But where else can people find you?

I'll link both of these below. I highly recommend you read these books if you're interested in these subjects like I am. But where else can people find you?

Great. I'll link both of those below wherever you're listening to this now. Erica, thank you.

Great. I'll link both of those below wherever you're listening to this now. Erica, thank you.

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