Steven

And I think when the most popular or the most well-known treatment doesn't work for you, you kind of develop an even greater sense of hopelessness. Are you a fan of rehab?

What do you think about psychedelics as a way to counteract addictive behaviors like the ones we've described earlier?

What do you think about psychedelics as a way to counteract addictive behaviors like the ones we've described earlier?

Psilocybin is the active compound in magic mushrooms.

Psilocybin is the active compound in magic mushrooms.

Have you heard of ibogaine?

Have you heard of ibogaine?

Which is often associated, which is another psychedelic often associated with addiction.

Which is often associated, which is another psychedelic often associated with addiction.

Really?

Really?

Have they studied that?

Have they studied that?

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One of the ways that many of us understand addiction, if we haven't experienced it directly in our own lives, is we look up at role models on TV and in sort of celebrity pop culture. And we see these role models who, you know, we see on stages start to deteriorate and deteriorate in the public eye.