Steven

If you were president of the United States, for example, let's just use this country as an example, and you had to make upstream changes to the way society was designed in order to mitigate the downstream symptom of addiction, addictive behaviours, etc. What are those things that you would change about the way that our society is designed? You could change anything.

It reminds me of Rat Park.

It reminds me of Rat Park.

What is Rat Park for those that don't know?

What is Rat Park for those that don't know?

Many of us are living in the first model of Rat Park.

Many of us are living in the first model of Rat Park.

We're living alone. We're living in these big cities. We're more sedentary than ever before. Maybe, you know, we've moved to a big city because we don't have, which means we don't have our family around. We might be doing a job that's incredibly challenging.

We're living alone. We're living in these big cities. We're more sedentary than ever before. Maybe, you know, we've moved to a big city because we don't have, which means we don't have our family around. We might be doing a job that's incredibly challenging.

So it's no wonder when we think about addiction and alcohol and some of these other behaviours, but more broadly beyond alcohol as a substance, other addictive behaviours, whether it's social media or it's what we eat or pornography or in the sort of inverse, the good habits, the healthy food, the working out, the exercise, the productive behaviors, why we're struggling so much.

So it's no wonder when we think about addiction and alcohol and some of these other behaviours, but more broadly beyond alcohol as a substance, other addictive behaviours, whether it's social media or it's what we eat or pornography or in the sort of inverse, the good habits, the healthy food, the working out, the exercise, the productive behaviors, why we're struggling so much.

And I've often wondered if we should all just like go to like communes and live, do you

And I've often wondered if we should all just like go to like communes and live, do you

And are you a fan of therapy as an approach to aim at the early childhood trauma?

And are you a fan of therapy as an approach to aim at the early childhood trauma?

And I guess the same applies for family and friends.

And I guess the same applies for family and friends.

Is it possible to prop somebody up? I, you know, because I was talking to, I think it was talking to Dr. Anna Lemke about this, about the idea that you can play a role in someone's addiction. Yeah. I want to help my friend who's addicted. And so I'm there for them. I'm comforting them. But I'm actually in some way reinforcing that addictive behavior because...

Is it possible to prop somebody up? I, you know, because I was talking to, I think it was talking to Dr. Anna Lemke about this, about the idea that you can play a role in someone's addiction. Yeah. I want to help my friend who's addicted. And so I'm there for them. I'm comforting them. But I'm actually in some way reinforcing that addictive behavior because...

I'm positively reinforcing it because I'm supporting them so much and I'm loving them so much and I'm showing them so much empathetic attention that actually I'm playing a role in continuing that addiction. Is that possible?