Steven

Why soul-destroying?

Why soul-destroying?

Complicated emotions.

Complicated emotions.

Not the surrogacy?

Not the surrogacy?

In the moment before?

In the moment before?

In that moment, are there decisions that you wish you'd made? Or is there something you'd wish you'd known? Because we don't talk about this enough, so people end up going through this themselves.

In that moment, are there decisions that you wish you'd made? Or is there something you'd wish you'd known? Because we don't talk about this enough, so people end up going through this themselves.

Were you aware of the biological clock in the way that people are now aware of it back then?

Were you aware of the biological clock in the way that people are now aware of it back then?

Thank you. Thank you for talking about that. Because as you say, there's not enough people that talk about it. And actually, had I not had the access to information on doing this podcast and meeting these women who have been very open about it, I would have had no idea. And I would have probably found myself in a bit of a struggle because me and my partner weren't thinking about that.

Thank you. Thank you for talking about that. Because as you say, there's not enough people that talk about it. And actually, had I not had the access to information on doing this podcast and meeting these women who have been very open about it, I would have had no idea. And I would have probably found myself in a bit of a struggle because me and my partner weren't thinking about that.

We're thinking about getting the bag. We're thinking about building our businesses. And we're 32 now. Yeah. So when I hear people like you say, listen, if this is something you want, then plan. Make a plan. And I don't think many people listening actually have a plan for children. They see it as the thing they'll get round to when they're ready. But this clock, man, it's like, oh.

We're thinking about getting the bag. We're thinking about building our businesses. And we're 32 now. Yeah. So when I hear people like you say, listen, if this is something you want, then plan. Make a plan. And I don't think many people listening actually have a plan for children. They see it as the thing they'll get round to when they're ready. But this clock, man, it's like, oh.

I've got an idea. I think you should start a podcast.

I've got an idea. I think you should start a podcast.

I think you should call it Aspire.

I think you should call it Aspire.