Stewart Lee

Something like that, yeah, 7, 8.

And in between one series, maybe series two or series three, somebody said, look, the problem is you're not a personality, you're not on other things.

We need you to do more stuff.

Yeah, they said, well, maybe... I said, I'm not doing panel shows.

The bloke goes, well, maybe you could present the culture show.

And so I wrote a routine about not only why I would not present the culture show, but why the culture show should be about me every week because I've done operas and all sorts of things.

It should just be a programme about how I embody culture.

So I kind of burnt my bridges for that completely.

I didn't want to do the culture show, but the Stuart Lee programme,

would be offended that he should be... And he would also think the culture show was lowbrow shit.

He would think it was not even... Do you think that?

No, it's all right.

It's not on anymore anyway, is it?

But everything, all the things that we moaned about, and now everything's so terrible that you look back and you think, wow.

It's gone and never coming back.

No.

But you know what else, though?

I really love comedy and I watch loads of it.

So the people that I admire enormously outweigh the tiny minority that irritate me.

And even those people...