Stewart Lee

Like a very simple child.

Because that's why people walk into your traps, because they appear unguarded.

I'll take that.

Well, if anything... The darkest parts of the human heart.

Yeah.

All those things are being amplified...

at speed by people in positions of power.

And the kind of people that you would have viewed as kooky, if slightly unpleasant, eccentrics 25 years ago are now in the heart of the American government, for example.

And as of yesterday, I think we need to face the fact that we're kind of at war with America.

with the declaration that Trump made yesterday that he intends to protect European civilization by using American power to support, in whatever way possible, far-right parties across Europe.

Yeah, and the Kremlin have said, we approve of this statement.

It's broadly in line with our motives.

Make a documentary about that.

Maybe I will.

Well, you sort of have.

You've mapped the mindsets that led us to this point.

And when we try to understand the death throes of human civilisation, all the work you've done will be helpful to the irradiated survivors.

Well, I did five months at Leicester Square and then a week at the Royal Festival Hall.

It sounds like you're saying I didn't try very hard.

I think you tried very hard.