Stewart Lee

It's just not something they're...

They're good at it.

And the problem is with Rogan operating as a kind of gatekeeper for comedy in the States now, the best people are being shut out and the worst people are being brought through by him.

Mark Maron's very good on this, actually, and he's probably made himself quite unpopular by systematically explaining what the problems are creatively of allowing Rogan to become a kind of gatekeeper for American comedy.

In the end, it will go into a death spiral.

Don't know him.

No.

I'm not on the internet, so a lot of things that are... If they've got a funny 15-second bit on TikTok, I don't even know how you get on that.

Jimmy Carr says the audience is a genius.

I don't know what that means.

why he would say it.

Did he say that or did someone write it for him?

Who knows?

Burn noted.

Well, look, I'm old enough to remember when alternative comedy started.

I was a teenager, you know, and the idea was that the working men's club comics that we saw as stand-ups as kids had this common treasury of material, which they were able to put an individual stamp on.

due to their regional differences.

And George Roper, for example, always mentioned Wellingtons in his jokes.

So he'd do the same joke as Bernard Manning, but the main character would be in Wellingtons.

So they all had their own little... But the great thing about alternative comedy was it was people were the authors of their own material.