Stu Gatz

This is why you want to start with that topic, so that David has some expertise.

Taller than Volstad? Wasn't Volstad? I thought – wasn't Hendrickson like 6'10"? Do I have this wrong? He's a summer league guy. I thought he was a basketball player.

Taller than Volstad? Wasn't Volstad? I thought – wasn't Hendrickson like 6'10"? Do I have this wrong? He's a summer league guy. I thought he was a basketball player.

Oh, good call. Uh, when we talk tall people, I want to show you guys a picture here when I'm talking about the proportion of these things, because I don't think most people think listening to this, that Steve Kerr is big. He's tall. Steve Kerr is six, four.

Oh, good call. Uh, when we talk tall people, I want to show you guys a picture here when I'm talking about the proportion of these things, because I don't think most people think listening to this, that Steve Kerr is big. He's tall. Steve Kerr is six, four.

If you think of him as a player, you might not think of him as that tall, but this picture right here, I very infrequently feel small around people. That's Mike Miller, a shooter and Udonis Haslam, an undersized power forward. Um, The when you say these people are tall, David, you're perpetually feeling like that, are you not?

If you think of him as a player, you might not think of him as that tall, but this picture right here, I very infrequently feel small around people. That's Mike Miller, a shooter and Udonis Haslam, an undersized power forward. Um, The when you say these people are tall, David, you're perpetually feeling like that, are you not?

I don't I don't mean to shame you here. It's funny that you would take that into consideration when like it also seems kind of torturous, a thing to have to take into consideration to how do I figure out how to stand to have this conversation with Stanton near the dugout steps so that I could be on the top one.

I don't I don't mean to shame you here. It's funny that you would take that into consideration when like it also seems kind of torturous, a thing to have to take into consideration to how do I figure out how to stand to have this conversation with Stanton near the dugout steps so that I could be on the top one.

Was there anybody who is consistently using their size to feel like they were bullying you, where you're feeling off of them that they're trying to do something here and I don't like it?

Was there anybody who is consistently using their size to feel like they were bullying you, where you're feeling off of them that they're trying to do something here and I don't like it?

He's like the first athlete to be good at Twitter. Yes, you unretired the late Carl Barger's number to give it to him in a great offense.

He's like the first athlete to be good at Twitter. Yes, you unretired the late Carl Barger's number to give it to him in a great offense.

I have never seen David that upset at an accusation ever. It wasn't him. That's my fault. But that happened around.

I have never seen David that upset at an accusation ever. It wasn't him. That's my fault. But that happened around.

But what was he trying to bully you with, though? Like when were you when was it so tense that you would feel some of what it is you're talking about?

But what was he trying to bully you with, though? Like when were you when was it so tense that you would feel some of what it is you're talking about?

Take us through some of that here, because you're at the precipice, really, of where it is some of this has broken down. I want to talk about NIL with you and Amin in a second. But the player having his own agency or her own agency and being able to tell their own story. Logan Morrison was one of the first athletes to be popular on Twitter.

Take us through some of that here, because you're at the precipice, really, of where it is some of this has broken down. I want to talk about NIL with you and Amin in a second. But the player having his own agency or her own agency and being able to tell their own story. Logan Morrison was one of the first athletes to be popular on Twitter.

Your your feeling as an executive was to create the Showtime series that about the franchise, about your team, because you wanted a kind of an attention, but you wanted an attention that was specific to your controlling it. Logan was saying, no, I get to control it. And you started that tense fight.