Stu Gatz

That begs an explanation. Okay. Lamar, I had two fantasy teams, both called Lobos. Lamar started on one team, Jamar Chase on the other. Okay, so technically, again, I was right. But... Jamar Chase won the MVL award in a controversial decision over Saquon Barkley. Okay?

That's true. This is a new and unimproved Dan Levitar show with the Stugas.

That's true. This is a new and unimproved Dan Levitar show with the Stugas.

No. Stu Gatz. He cost them the game last night. Although they won the game. But had they lost, I'm telling you, it would have been on LaMarcus Aldridge. 20 mediocre years.

No. Stu Gatz. He cost them the game last night. Although they won the game. But had they lost, I'm telling you, it would have been on LaMarcus Aldridge. 20 mediocre years.

But Mike, explain that to the audience, because we used to put the podcast out after we were done with the afternoon show. So they were getting it at 7 o'clock, 7.30, 8 o'clock at night. You're saying putting that episode out, the podcast episode at 1.30 was a big advantage for us.

But Mike, explain that to the audience, because we used to put the podcast out after we were done with the afternoon show. So they were getting it at 7 o'clock, 7.30, 8 o'clock at night. You're saying putting that episode out, the podcast episode at 1.30 was a big advantage for us.

But we've always followed Mike Ryan because he's younger, because he cares about us, because he knows the industry. Like, you're right. You and I just wanted to speak into a microphone and do radio. I had no idea that people wanted to listen on their own time.

But we've always followed Mike Ryan because he's younger, because he cares about us, because he knows the industry. Like, you're right. You and I just wanted to speak into a microphone and do radio. I had no idea that people wanted to listen on their own time.

Are you saying that I'm faking it?

Are you saying that I'm faking it?

And you did a great job by not showing your hand because I knew it was going on. I'm not certain Dan did, but I knew what you were dealing with. You weren't just a radio producer anymore. You were dealing with a TV staff.

And you did a great job by not showing your hand because I knew it was going on. I'm not certain Dan did, but I knew what you were dealing with. You weren't just a radio producer anymore. You were dealing with a TV staff.

as you can tell... You were doing it for him, huh?

as you can tell... You were doing it for him, huh?

So it's interesting because I remember for the first time we really had to change our approach to programming, to content, to how we were going to do the show. Because even when we were on in afternoons at ESPN and ESPN Radio, they told us, Miami, focus on Miami. Do Miami. It's the biggest market you're on. Go Miami. And that was easy for us. That was an easy transition.

So it's interesting because I remember for the first time we really had to change our approach to programming, to content, to how we were going to do the show. Because even when we were on in afternoons at ESPN and ESPN Radio, they told us, Miami, focus on Miami. Do Miami. It's the biggest market you're on. Go Miami. And that was easy for us. That was an easy transition.

This was a difficult transition because I remember you and I having discussion saying, how are we going to cater to New York and L.A.?

This was a difficult transition because I remember you and I having discussion saying, how are we going to cater to New York and L.A.?

But the last book before they took us off ESPN Radio in New York, Dan and I, we had cracked the top ten. Yeah. And then they yanked us off that station.