Stu Gatz

We just couldn't get Dan comfortable out there. That's it.

We just couldn't get Dan comfortable out there. That's it.

I wanted a coliseum, I mean.

I wanted a coliseum, I mean.

Mike, we were a show that did not belong at ESPN.

Mike, we were a show that did not belong at ESPN.

Good use of brass taxes. Dan, do you feel the same way?

Good use of brass taxes. Dan, do you feel the same way?

I think he put the S on it. No, I said brass tacks.

I think he put the S on it. No, I said brass tacks.

But Mike felt it, so I mean, that's the important part. You give off a lot of stuff that you don't know you're giving off.

But Mike felt it, so I mean, that's the important part. You give off a lot of stuff that you don't know you're giving off.

It was important to me as well. You guys having a good relationship because when Hawk was there, you had a great relationship with Hawk and that made my job easier. My job, this was the most difficult stage for me because I'm worried about whether the two of you are going to get along and whether or not you will trust Mike the way you trusted Hawk.

It was important to me as well. You guys having a good relationship because when Hawk was there, you had a great relationship with Hawk and that made my job easier. My job, this was the most difficult stage for me because I'm worried about whether the two of you are going to get along and whether or not you will trust Mike the way you trusted Hawk.

Because when you trust your executive producer, it makes all of our jobs easier. But because I was so worried about so many things, your relationship, what was going on outside of the studio, worried about my own life. We're worried about the executives at ESPN. It made it a very tricky time for us to do the show.

Because when you trust your executive producer, it makes all of our jobs easier. But because I was so worried about so many things, your relationship, what was going on outside of the studio, worried about my own life. We're worried about the executives at ESPN. It made it a very tricky time for us to do the show.

And so I was thrilled once I realized that you two had landed in a spot where Dan clearly trusted and respected you. And you clearly took that and took it to the next level because you needed that from Dan.

And so I was thrilled once I realized that you two had landed in a spot where Dan clearly trusted and respected you. And you clearly took that and took it to the next level because you needed that from Dan.

But I think at this stage, you and I had a different relationship than the one that you had with Mike. And so I felt pretty comfortable with job security. And listen, you had sat in front of Skipper and said no to Bomani Jones.

But I think at this stage, you and I had a different relationship than the one that you had with Mike. And so I felt pretty comfortable with job security. And listen, you had sat in front of Skipper and said no to Bomani Jones.