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Stuart Miller

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
616 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Graham Duncan - Talent Whisperer - [Invest Like the Best, EP.409]

I feel like that's something I aspire to for my kids is because I feel like that experience for me. It locked in this sense of my identity being I can outwork other people if I just try hard enough. So when I subsequently hit challenges like having launched East Rock a year before the great financial crisis, I had this underlying confidence that it could only get so bad somehow.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Graham Duncan - Talent Whisperer - [Invest Like the Best, EP.409]

I feel like that's something I aspire to for my kids is because I feel like that experience for me. It locked in this sense of my identity being I can outwork other people if I just try hard enough. So when I subsequently hit challenges like having launched East Rock a year before the great financial crisis, I had this underlying confidence that it could only get so bad somehow.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Graham Duncan - Talent Whisperer - [Invest Like the Best, EP.409]

Because I can always fall back on working hard. I've seen it before, so it's tangible in this way. Like, I believe it in my bones. And that underlying confidence that I'll figure it out, I feel like when a kid has that or a grown-up has that, it allows you to operate from integrity in periods where it's stressful.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Graham Duncan - Talent Whisperer - [Invest Like the Best, EP.409]

Because I can always fall back on working hard. I've seen it before, so it's tangible in this way. Like, I believe it in my bones. And that underlying confidence that I'll figure it out, I feel like when a kid has that or a grown-up has that, it allows you to operate from integrity in periods where it's stressful.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Graham Duncan - Talent Whisperer - [Invest Like the Best, EP.409]

There's a lot of pain tolerance. So the races, depending on how fast you row, it's 2000 meters. And in a single, you'll do it between like seven and eight minutes. And so that's a length. It's not a sprint and it's not a marathon. You're producing an incredible amount of lactic acid.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Graham Duncan - Talent Whisperer - [Invest Like the Best, EP.409]

There's a lot of pain tolerance. So the races, depending on how fast you row, it's 2000 meters. And in a single, you'll do it between like seven and eight minutes. And so that's a length. It's not a sprint and it's not a marathon. You're producing an incredible amount of lactic acid.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Graham Duncan - Talent Whisperer - [Invest Like the Best, EP.409]

Yeah. Yeah. There's a threshold of, okay, I'm going to get used to the pain and be okay with that. There was also a big difference between... I first won a couple of national championships in the double, and it was striking how different it is to be out in the water with just one other person compared to being just yourself out there and how there's nowhere to hide. And so I feel like I learned...

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Graham Duncan - Talent Whisperer - [Invest Like the Best, EP.409]

Yeah. Yeah. There's a threshold of, okay, I'm going to get used to the pain and be okay with that. There was also a big difference between... I first won a couple of national championships in the double, and it was striking how different it is to be out in the water with just one other person compared to being just yourself out there and how there's nowhere to hide. And so I feel like I learned...

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Graham Duncan - Talent Whisperer - [Invest Like the Best, EP.409]

Partly just a training mindset. I was fortunate in that the club I worked at was mainly training national team members, like adult national team members. We had fancy boats and we were videoed in every practice. You'd go home and watch video. and constantly work on your technique.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Graham Duncan - Talent Whisperer - [Invest Like the Best, EP.409]

Partly just a training mindset. I was fortunate in that the club I worked at was mainly training national team members, like adult national team members. We had fancy boats and we were videoed in every practice. You'd go home and watch video. and constantly work on your technique.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Graham Duncan - Talent Whisperer - [Invest Like the Best, EP.409]

And so that training mentality that my friend Josh Waitzkin is very focused on applying to any profession today is that confidence that the investment in the training pays off was one thing I learned. And that you could always, this optimism, you can always tweak it a little bit and make it slightly better. My dad always said I was very coachable. which I think is true.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Graham Duncan - Talent Whisperer - [Invest Like the Best, EP.409]

And so that training mentality that my friend Josh Waitzkin is very focused on applying to any profession today is that confidence that the investment in the training pays off was one thing I learned. And that you could always, this optimism, you can always tweak it a little bit and make it slightly better. My dad always said I was very coachable. which I think is true.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Graham Duncan - Talent Whisperer - [Invest Like the Best, EP.409]

So I was able to evolve my technique, I think, pretty effectively and pretty quickly because I just wanted to win. I didn't experience much friction. Did anything formative happen to you at Yale? One was just the experience of being with so many ambitious, smart people kind of blew my mind. My freshman year, I was in a program called Directed Studies.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Graham Duncan - Talent Whisperer - [Invest Like the Best, EP.409]

So I was able to evolve my technique, I think, pretty effectively and pretty quickly because I just wanted to win. I didn't experience much friction. Did anything formative happen to you at Yale? One was just the experience of being with so many ambitious, smart people kind of blew my mind. My freshman year, I was in a program called Directed Studies.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Graham Duncan - Talent Whisperer - [Invest Like the Best, EP.409]

You had to apply to get into, and it was 60 kids, and you had full professors teaching you classics. And I was in this philosophy class, and of the 60 kids, seven of them were from St. Ann's, the school in Brooklyn. And I'd gone to public school in New Hampshire, and two of the St. Ann's kids were reading Plato in the Greek. At first, I mistook one of them as the TA.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Graham Duncan - Talent Whisperer - [Invest Like the Best, EP.409]

You had to apply to get into, and it was 60 kids, and you had full professors teaching you classics. And I was in this philosophy class, and of the 60 kids, seven of them were from St. Ann's, the school in Brooklyn. And I'd gone to public school in New Hampshire, and two of the St. Ann's kids were reading Plato in the Greek. At first, I mistook one of them as the TA.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Graham Duncan - Talent Whisperer - [Invest Like the Best, EP.409]

And when I remember calling my parents saying, I don't think I'm going to make it. Definitely in directed studies, I knew they'd yell if this is what the standard is. The other thing was you're writing a paper a week. It was intense. And they called it directed suicide at the time. I'm sure that's no longer allowed as a term. But

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Graham Duncan - Talent Whisperer - [Invest Like the Best, EP.409]

And when I remember calling my parents saying, I don't think I'm going to make it. Definitely in directed studies, I knew they'd yell if this is what the standard is. The other thing was you're writing a paper a week. It was intense. And they called it directed suicide at the time. I'm sure that's no longer allowed as a term. But

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Graham Duncan - Talent Whisperer - [Invest Like the Best, EP.409]

I was at that guy's wedding, George's wedding, 15 years later, and I'm sitting at a round table where it was all directed studies alums. And somebody else told that exact story. It turned out half the table had called their parents because George was reading Plato in the Greek. So...

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Graham Duncan - Talent Whisperer - [Invest Like the Best, EP.409]

I was at that guy's wedding, George's wedding, 15 years later, and I'm sitting at a round table where it was all directed studies alums. And somebody else told that exact story. It turned out half the table had called their parents because George was reading Plato in the Greek. So...