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Stuart Russell

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Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

So my program never beat me at chess.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

I actually wrote the program at Imperial College.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

So I used to take the bus every Wednesday with a box of cards this big and shove them into the card reader.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

And they gave us eight seconds of CPU time.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

It took about five seconds to read the cards in and compile the code.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

So we had three seconds of CPU time, which was enough to make one move with a not very deep search.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

And then we would print that move out, and then we'd have to go to the back of the queue and wait to feed the cards in again.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

How deep was the search?

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

No, I think we got an eight move, a depth eight with alpha, beta, and we had some...

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

tricks of our own about move ordering and some pruning of the tree.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

But you were still able to beat that program?

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

Yeah, yeah.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

I was a reasonable chess player in my youth.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

I did an Othello program and a backgammon program.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

So when I got to Berkeley, I worked a lot on

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

what we call meta reasoning which really means reasoning about reasoning and in the case of a game playing program you need to reason about what parts of the search tree you're actually going to explore because the search tree is enormous or you know bigger than the number of atoms in the universe and

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

And the way programs succeed and the way humans succeed is by only looking at a small fraction of the search tree.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

And if you look at the right fraction, you play really well.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

If you look at the wrong fraction, if you waste your time thinking about things that are never going to happen, the moves that no one's ever going to make, then you're going to lose because you won't be able to figure out the right decision.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

So that question of how machines can manage their own computation, how they decide what to think about, is the meta-reasoning question.

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