Stuart Russell

So the narrative in Washington, which I think Jensen Huang is either reflecting or perhaps promoting, is that, you know, China is completely unregulated.

And America would only slow itself down if it regulates AI in any way.

So this is a completely false narrative because China's AI regulations are actually quite strict, even compared to European Union.

And China's government has explicitly acknowledged the need and their regulations are very clear.

You can't build AI systems that could escape human control.

And not only that, I don't think they view the race in the same way as, okay, we just need to be the first to create AGI.

I think they're more interested in figuring out how to disseminate AI as a set of tools within their economy to make their economy more productive and so on.

So that's their version of the race.

So weapons are a separate matter.

And I'm happy to talk about weapons.

But just in terms of control, economic domination, they don't view putting all your eggs in the AGI basket as the right strategy.

So they want to use AI, even in its present form, to make their economy much more efficient and productive.

And also, you know...

to give people new capabilities and better quality of life.

And I think the US could do that as well.

And typically, Western countries don't have as much of central government control over what companies do.

And some companies are investing in AI to make their operations more efficient.

and some are not, and we'll see how that plays out.

What do you think of Trump's approach to AI?

So Trump's approach is, you know, it's echoing what Jensen Huang is saying, that the US has to be the one to create AGI.