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Stuart Russell

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Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

This is, I think, many of the 20th century technologies, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

So in statistics, you minimize a loss function.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

The loss function is exogenously specified.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

In control theory, you minimize a cost function.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

In operations research, you maximize a reward function, and so on.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

So in all these disciplines, this is how we conceive of the problem, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

and it's the wrong problem because we cannot specify with certainty the correct objective right we need uncertainty we need the machine to be uncertain about that's objective what it is that it's supposed to be maximizing favorite idea of yours uh i've heard you say somewhere uh well i shouldn't pick favorites but it just sounds beautiful we need to teach machines humility uh

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

That they're humble in that they know that they don't know what it is they're supposed to be doing.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

And that those objectives, I mean, they exist.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

They are within us, but we may not be able to explicate them.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

We may not even know exactly.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

you know, how we want our future to go.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

Exactly.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

And the machine, you know, a machine that's uncertain is going to be deferential to us.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

So if we say don't do that, well, now the machines learn something a bit more about our true objectives, because

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

something that it thought was reasonable in pursuit of our objective turns out not to be so now it's learned something so it's going to defer because it wants to be doing what we really want and um you know that that point i think is absolutely central to solving the control problem and it's a different kind of ai when you when you

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

take away this idea that the objective is known, then in fact, a lot of the theoretical frameworks that we're so familiar with, you know, Markov decision processes, goal-based planning, you know, standard games research, all of these techniques actually become inapplicable.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

And you get a more complicated problem because, because now,

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

The interaction with the human becomes part of the problem because the human by making choices is giving you more information about the true objective and that information helps you achieve the objective better.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

And so that really means that you're mostly dealing with game theoretic problems where you've got the machine and the human and they're coupled together rather than a machine going off by itself with a fixed objective.