Stuart Russell

But the whole notion that you have stage one, stage two, stage three, and here are the criteria for what you have to do to pass a stage one trial, right?

Yes.

We haven't even thought about what those would be for algorithms.

So, I mean, I think there are...

There are things we could do right now with regard to bias, for example.

We have a pretty good technical handle on how to detect algorithms that are propagating bias that exists in data sets, how to de-bias those algorithms, and even what it's going to cost you to do that.

So I think we could start having some standards on that.

I think there are things to do with impersonation and falsification that we could work on.

Thanks.

A very simple point.

So impersonation is a machine acting as if it was a person.

I can't see a real justification for

for why we shouldn't insist that machines self-identify as machines.

Where is the social benefit in fooling people into thinking that this is really a person when it isn't?

I don't mind if it uses a human-like voice that's easy to understand, that's fine, but it should just say, I'm a machine in some form.

Yeah, I mean, there is actually a law in California that bans impersonation, but only in certain restricted circumstances.

So for the purpose of engaging in a fraudulent transaction and for the purpose of modifying someone's voting behavior.

So those are the circumstances where machines have to self-identify.

But I think arguably it should be in all circumstances.

And then when you talk about deep fakes, we're just at the beginning, but already it's possible to make a movie of anybody saying anything in ways that are pretty hard to detect.