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Stuart Russell

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Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

Okay, so if you accept that it's possible, and if you accept that it's probably going to happen, the point that you're making that, how does it go wrong?

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

a valid question.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

Without that, without an answer to that question, then you're stuck with what I call the gorilla problem, which is the problem that the gorillas face, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

They made something more intelligent than them, namely us, a few million years ago, and now they're in deep doo-doo.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

So there's really nothing they can do.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

They've lost the control.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

They failed to solve the control problem of controlling humans, and so they've lost control.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

So we don't want to be in that situation.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

And if the gorilla problem is the only formulation you have, there's not a lot you can do, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

Other than to say, okay, we should try to stop.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

We should just not make the humans or in this case, not make the AI.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

And I think that's really hard to do.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

I'm not actually proposing that that's a feasible course of action.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

I also think that if properly controlled AI could be incredibly beneficial.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

But it seems to me that there's a

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

There's a consensus that one of the major failure modes is this loss of control, that we create AI systems that are pursuing incorrect objectives.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

And because the AI system believes it knows what the objective is, it has no incentive to listen to us anymore, so to speak, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

It's just carrying out the strategy that it has computed as being the optimal solution.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

And it may be that in the process, it needs to acquire more resources to increase the possibility of success or prevent various failure modes by defending itself against interference.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Stuart Russell: Long-Term Future of AI

And so that collection of problems, I think, is something we can address.