Stuart Russell

So all the things we're worrying about now were described in the story.

And then the human race becomes more and more dependent on the machine, loses knowledge of how things really run.

And then becomes vulnerable to collapse.

And so it's a pretty unbelievably amazing story for someone writing in 1909 to imagine all this.

If you say so, okay, that's very kind.

So it's all my fault.

It's all your fault.

I mean, in a practical sense, yeah, because I get, you know, a dozen, sometimes 25 invitations a day to talk about it, to give interviews, to write press articles and so on.

So in that very practical sense, I'm seeing that people are concerned and really interested about this topic.

Of course.

I worry about that all the time.

I mean, that's always been the way that I've worked.

It's like I have an argument in my head with myself, right?

So I have some idea, and then I think, okay, how could that be wrong?

Or did someone else already have that idea?

So I'll go and search in as much literature as I can to find

to see whether someone else already thought of that or even refuted it.

So right now I'm reading a lot of philosophy because in the form of the debates over utilitarianism and other kinds of moral formulas, shall we say, people have already thought through

some of these issues.

But, you know, one of the things I'm not seeing in a lot of these debates is this specific idea about the importance of uncertainty in the objective, that this is the way we should think about machines that are beneficial to humans.