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Stuart Russell

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The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
The Man Who Wrote The Book On AI: 2030 Might Be The Point Of No Return! We've Been Lied To About AI!

In fact, reading the comment sections in newspapers, whenever there's an AI article, there'll be people who say, oh, you can just pull the plug out, right?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
The Man Who Wrote The Book On AI: 2030 Might Be The Point Of No Return! We've Been Lied To About AI!

As if a super intelligent machine would never have thought of that one.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
The Man Who Wrote The Book On AI: 2030 Might Be The Point Of No Return! We've Been Lied To About AI!

Don't forget, it's watched all those films where they did try to pull the plug out.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
The Man Who Wrote The Book On AI: 2030 Might Be The Point Of No Return! We've Been Lied To About AI!

Another thing they say, well, you know, as long as it's not conscious...

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
The Man Who Wrote The Book On AI: 2030 Might Be The Point Of No Return! We've Been Lied To About AI!

then it doesn't matter, it won't ever do anything.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
The Man Who Wrote The Book On AI: 2030 Might Be The Point Of No Return! We've Been Lied To About AI!

Which is...

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
The Man Who Wrote The Book On AI: 2030 Might Be The Point Of No Return! We've Been Lied To About AI!

Completely off the point, because, you know, I don't think the gorillas are sitting there saying, oh, yeah, you know, if only those humans hadn't been conscious, everything would be fine, right?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
The Man Who Wrote The Book On AI: 2030 Might Be The Point Of No Return! We've Been Lied To About AI!

No, of course not.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
The Man Who Wrote The Book On AI: 2030 Might Be The Point Of No Return! We've Been Lied To About AI!

What would make gorillas go extinct is the things that humans do, right?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
The Man Who Wrote The Book On AI: 2030 Might Be The Point Of No Return! We've Been Lied To About AI!

How we behave, our ability to act successfully, right?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
The Man Who Wrote The Book On AI: 2030 Might Be The Point Of No Return! We've Been Lied To About AI!

in the world so when i play chess against my iphone and i lose right i don't i don't think oh well i'm losing because it's conscious right now i'm just losing because it's better than i am at in that little world uh moving the bits around uh to get what it wants so

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
The Man Who Wrote The Book On AI: 2030 Might Be The Point Of No Return! We've Been Lied To About AI!

And so consciousness has nothing to do with it, right?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
The Man Who Wrote The Book On AI: 2030 Might Be The Point Of No Return! We've Been Lied To About AI!

Competence is the thing we are concerned about.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
The Man Who Wrote The Book On AI: 2030 Might Be The Point Of No Return! We've Been Lied To About AI!

So I think the only hope is, can we simultaneously build machines that are more intelligent than us, but guarantee that they will always act in our best interest?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
The Man Who Wrote The Book On AI: 2030 Might Be The Point Of No Return! We've Been Lied To About AI!

That's the trick, right?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
The Man Who Wrote The Book On AI: 2030 Might Be The Point Of No Return! We've Been Lied To About AI!

Can we make AI systems whose only purpose is to further human interests?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
The Man Who Wrote The Book On AI: 2030 Might Be The Point Of No Return! We've Been Lied To About AI!

And I think the answer is yes.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
The Man Who Wrote The Book On AI: 2030 Might Be The Point Of No Return! We've Been Lied To About AI!

And this is actually what I've been working on.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
The Man Who Wrote The Book On AI: 2030 Might Be The Point Of No Return! We've Been Lied To About AI!

So I think one part of my career that I didn't mention is sort of having this epiphany while I was on sabbatical in Paris.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
The Man Who Wrote The Book On AI: 2030 Might Be The Point Of No Return! We've Been Lied To About AI!

This was 2013 or so.